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Agent47
12-Oct-2003, 00:55
Is that a temp logo you got at the top there? I dont think its a very clear one.

velvet
12-Oct-2003, 00:56
People are more than willing to do me a new one, I'm not good with logos :)

Agent47
12-Oct-2003, 01:18
How about this:

http://rnd.deskmod.com/smile/images/tricklogo.gif

Just an early idea.

velvet
12-Oct-2003, 01:19
not bad, gonna sticky this and lets have a competition :)

Razz
12-Oct-2003, 01:19
Some nice TFC action there, I like it :D

Agent47
12-Oct-2003, 01:20
cool :)

D33
12-Oct-2003, 01:53
http://www.onlinegaminghub.net/misc/homelessgamers.jpg

Not really a serious entry, more of a five minute muckabout in photoshop.

Agent47
12-Oct-2003, 01:58
hard to make that one out heh

velvet
12-Oct-2003, 01:58
With a bit longer in photoshop I think that one could be a winner :)

D33
12-Oct-2003, 02:01
Graphics never really were my forte. I could give someone like Brocken the photo and he should be able to do something decent with the idea.

Agent47
12-Oct-2003, 02:40
Redone my logo some more:

http://rnd.deskmod.com/smile/images/tricklogob.gif

gary
12-Oct-2003, 09:59
ill have one done by the end of the week :dozey:

Agent47
12-Oct-2003, 11:09
end of the week is today :)

Drkwoman
12-Oct-2003, 11:12
Sunday is the first day of the week, end of week is fri/sat :naughty:

Agent47
12-Oct-2003, 11:16
nah Sunday is traditionally the last day of the week and Monday the first. Seventh day in the Bible and all that.

jimbobaggies
12-Oct-2003, 11:31
nah Sunday is traditionally the last day of the week and Monday the first. Seventh day in the Bible and all that.

Technically you are right, but a working week starts Sunday, and finishes Saturday!!

Agent47
12-Oct-2003, 11:33
working week yes, but generally its Sundays :)

jimbobaggies
12-Oct-2003, 11:35
OK, I did concede that fact - I wasn't tryin to flame u or owt ;)

Blood God
12-Oct-2003, 11:38
nah Sunday is traditionally the last day of the week and Monday the first. Seventh day in the Bible and all that.

Ah, but the bible was written by jews, who have Saturday as their day of rest. Therefore if they rest on the 7th day, i.e. Saturday, then Sunday is the first day of the week :P

Agent47
12-Oct-2003, 11:38
dun worrie mate itd take a lot to get me going and deciding the start of the week is kinda low down on the list :)

Drkwoman
12-Oct-2003, 11:40
tbh, I only said Sundays cuz it's the first column on calenders :P

Agent47
12-Oct-2003, 11:53
and even then only on some calendars hehe

oxy
12-Oct-2003, 12:07
i thought this was a logos thread? :)

Agent47
12-Oct-2003, 12:11
seems to had got hijacked :naughty:

Drkwoman
12-Oct-2003, 12:30
http://www.wyswert.net/forum/images/smilies/coolsmilies/hijacked.gif

Blood God
12-Oct-2003, 12:31
http://www.wyswert.net/forum/images/smilies/coolsmilies/hijacked.gif

Rofl

oxy
12-Oct-2003, 12:42
lol!

Heartwork
12-Oct-2003, 13:13
i'll make a logo. IN MS PAINT MUAHAHAHAHAHA it'll own :D

spl@t
12-Oct-2003, 13:20
my attempt

http://www.net-images.co.uk/clienttest/splatt/trickery.gif

suggestions appreciated :D

Harry Palmer
12-Oct-2003, 13:22
not bad Splat, not bad at all :)

COP
12-Oct-2003, 13:28
my attempt

http://www.net-images.co.uk/clienttest/splatt/trickery.gif

suggestions appreciated :D

Only thing i'd say is that I did have to look at it twice, i thought it said Mickery at 1st :oops: other than that it looks good

Agent47
12-Oct-2003, 13:30
yeah it does look like that and he pinched my lines :o nice work though.

Heartwork
12-Oct-2003, 13:31
http://www.msnusers.com/mypicture?user=4263~5AAAAeAAACCH7V!pNdxlNQvskPyXgF mhZUg3JyVsrSR9Vvndd7LtRVeQ$$~5AAAAfAAAEIkjdA!jtLSC jqZRpeURl23HtyTodGVrrm4w$

lmfao the wonders of MS Paint and the pencil tool

spl@t
12-Oct-2003, 13:38
yeah it does look like that and he pinched my lines :o nice work though.

they're my lines now

*giggles*

slight tweak

http://www.net-images.co.uk/clienttest/splatt/trickery2.gif

BlackPope
12-Oct-2003, 14:04
http://www.msnw26453.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/trick.jpg

Blood God
12-Oct-2003, 14:05
not bad that one, you just can't spell the URL right...

its trickery not trikery :)

BlackPope
12-Oct-2003, 14:14
you just can't spell the URL right...

its trickery not trikery :)

waz alwaaays cwap at speeeling :lol:

Heartwork
12-Oct-2003, 14:21
personally I dont see the typo :o

BlackPope
12-Oct-2003, 14:27
:lol: I edited the pic :naughty:

True
12-Oct-2003, 14:52
How about a brighter forum skin :D

velvet
12-Oct-2003, 16:30
Some of these ain't bad :)

Can I request though, that they all have:

"the home of homeless gamers"

urls are:

"www.trickery.net"

irc channel is:

"#trickery"

Incase you haven't worked out, I'm anal and like lower case.

ta!

Drkwoman
12-Oct-2003, 16:35
tbh, I think the logos should also 'color match' the forum scheme. Might blend in better.

Just my 2p :)

velvet
12-Oct-2003, 16:38
Yeh, would be nice :)

Onions
12-Oct-2003, 16:42
blue \o/

spl@t
12-Oct-2003, 16:45
http://www.net-images.co.uk/clienttest/splatt/trickery2.gif

updated mr anally retentative :D

oxy
12-Oct-2003, 16:55
nice

BBW
12-Oct-2003, 17:05
http://home.clara.net/robdowd/banner.gif


http://home.clara.net/robdowd/banner2.gif

Blood God
12-Oct-2003, 17:06
can't really read the text on those 2 BBW

BlackPope
12-Oct-2003, 17:41
site colours
http://www.msnw26453.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tricky2.jpg

Sysagent
12-Oct-2003, 17:43
Incase you haven't worked out, I'm anal and like lower case.

ta!

He hates me and my capitals ;)

GroovYF
12-Oct-2003, 17:52
That's still a capital 't' in Trickery in yer logo BlackPope :)

Melly
12-Oct-2003, 19:16
http://clandg.co.uk/trickery.jpg

:E no capitals, what ya think of mine :D

MALLET
12-Oct-2003, 19:17
They`re all looking pretty good :D even urs smelly melly :P

BBW
12-Oct-2003, 19:43
http://home.clara.net/robdowd/banner3.gif

Melly
12-Oct-2003, 19:45
rofl a tramp :E

Jennifer
12-Oct-2003, 19:46
Bbw isn't that bad off.

BrUiSeR
12-Oct-2003, 20:18
Yeah the current Logo is a bit off :o :lol:

Longbow
12-Oct-2003, 21:25
http://clandg.co.uk/trickery.jpg

:E no capitals, what ya think of mine :D

We have a winner! :lol:

Drkwoman
12-Oct-2003, 21:27
:lol:

Well done smelly melly ;)

travis
12-Oct-2003, 21:42
nice 1 melly. send it into art attack or something :lol:

Mart
12-Oct-2003, 21:49
my attempt

http://www.net-images.co.uk/clienttest/splatt/trickery.gif

suggestions appreciated :D

[21:47] <splatt> http://www.trickery.net/bb/viewtopic.php?t=174&start=25
[21:47] <splatt> rain praise on my logo!

yeah.....its......erm.......good..... :?

spl@t
12-Oct-2003, 21:51
pffft blatent lies, i was never said that!!

Mart
12-Oct-2003, 21:52
what channel? ;)

spl@t
12-Oct-2003, 21:53
eh ?

terroristteddy
12-Oct-2003, 21:58
he was in bed with be at 21:47

its a clear alibi

Mart
12-Oct-2003, 22:04
must be his identical twin brother with exactly same nick then :(

Agent47
12-Oct-2003, 22:09
So far I think its a choice between my 2nd one and splats. Melly you spelt Trickery wrong :p

velvet
12-Oct-2003, 22:27
Keep them coming people. I'll give it a few days then stick up a poll so people can vote. Presuming the vote for the one I like we'll stick it up :D

spl@t
12-Oct-2003, 22:47
i like em all, good ideas in each of em. Even the msPaint attempt :D

Heartwork
12-Oct-2003, 22:49
mellys is crap :o

or ahd you noticed? :E

spl@t
12-Oct-2003, 22:51
no no you have to look deep into it, it has alot of meaning under the surface.

The artist is saying "im 12!!!" :lol:

Agent47
12-Oct-2003, 22:52
crap is the wrong word, modern art :)

BBW
12-Oct-2003, 23:02
my homeless bloke wins dammit :cry:

z0man
12-Oct-2003, 23:06
Nothing beats mine :)

spl@t
12-Oct-2003, 23:07
if thats ^^ the one i dont think its quite meeting the requirements 8)

Melly
12-Oct-2003, 23:13
Keep them coming people. I'll give it a few days then stick up a poll so people can vote. Presuming the vote for the one I like we'll stick it up :D

muha ur all gunna be pwned by mine, cos Velvet lubs the finishing touch :E

oxy
13-Oct-2003, 00:41
melly's is full of WIN atm

CooK1E
13-Oct-2003, 08:59
Are the judgies accepting bribes ?

Cause melly has got a lot of cash spare ya kno :)

Cookie

ps mellys sig' is teh best :D

Heartwork
13-Oct-2003, 11:24
:o accepting bribes? Well everyone can bribe me to delete my ms paint effort cause thats gonna win otherwise :lol:

gary
13-Oct-2003, 11:50
http://clandg.co.uk/trickery.jpg

:E no capitals, what ya think of mine :D

:naughty: lol.

stikky
13-Oct-2003, 13:29
so? uncle velvet? is melly teh w1n?!?!

Melly
13-Oct-2003, 14:01
:D everyone likes my banner muha i think it was the red font that makes it l33t0r :cheese:

wooly-back-jack
13-Oct-2003, 16:41
im not too good at this, im better at wizza pics :P

http://www.woolybackjack.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/trickery1.JPG




and

http://www.woolybackjack.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/trickery2.JPG

Harry Palmer
13-Oct-2003, 17:44
im not too good at this, im better at wizza pics :P

http://www.woolybackjack.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/trickery1.JPG





I like that one, just needs a different font whatever...

hAiNeSy
13-Oct-2003, 17:51
I like them a lot, wooly!

Agent47
13-Oct-2003, 17:54
The second of wooly-back-jacks is rather too high IMO. As for Mellys, he hasnt even spelt it right....or is that the point?

D33
13-Oct-2003, 18:10
I sense desperation to win :lol:

Drkwoman
13-Oct-2003, 18:17
site colours
http://www.msnw26453.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tricky2.jpg

I like this one so far. Blends in nicely too :)

GroovYF
13-Oct-2003, 18:17
Agreed. Get that to a lower-case 't' and we have a winner!

spl@t
13-Oct-2003, 18:18
i feel dirty posting this one, blatent plagerism. sorry lads :D

http://www.net-images.co.uk/clienttest/splatt/trickery3.jpg

travis
13-Oct-2003, 19:21
the logo by blackpope gets my vote :D

seals
13-Oct-2003, 19:25
like the one Blackpope made, look realy cool so i vote for that one. :x

spl@t
13-Oct-2003, 21:07
right my final two

http://www.net-images.co.uk/clienttest/splatt/trickery2.jpg

http://www.net-images.co.uk/clienttest/splatt/trickery3.jpg

Melly
13-Oct-2003, 22:09
pick mine!!!!!! :|

Agent47
13-Oct-2003, 22:10
I wonder how ethical it would be to use homeless people in the logo.

spl@t
13-Oct-2003, 22:14
how do we know that hes homeless, may just be tired ;)

Agent47
13-Oct-2003, 22:15
lol

Harry Palmer
13-Oct-2003, 22:29
Rather expensive jeans, jacket and haircut for a homeless person tbh..

Jennifer
13-Oct-2003, 22:32
Why does that drink look like ck at the end?

Kahless
13-Oct-2003, 22:44
http://warp9.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tri1.JPG

Agent47
13-Oct-2003, 22:54
like it kahless

spl@t
13-Oct-2003, 23:14
my homeless bloke was on a paris bench so that may explain the jeans etc

tarts...

D33
13-Oct-2003, 23:32
I wonder how ethical it would be to use homeless people in the logo.

It's a bit of fun :dozey:

Harry Palmer
13-Oct-2003, 23:35
I think Jen may have been right about the "ck" then if it's french...

Kahless
14-Oct-2003, 00:14
http://warp9.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/velv1.JPG

Just thought his face fitted nicely .. lmao :lol:

BrUiSeR
14-Oct-2003, 12:58
w00t

Melly
14-Oct-2003, 13:44
versy constructive post there bruiser :P

i like urs kathless. the homeless gamer in the dark ;)

Invis
14-Oct-2003, 13:55
splats rocks! :E

oxy
14-Oct-2003, 14:18
melly's one im voting for atm then blackpopes

Kahless
14-Oct-2003, 14:36
http://warp9.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tri4.JPG

Kahless
14-Oct-2003, 15:38
http://warp9.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tri5.JPG

Maybe a little too plain tbh , Ive never messed really messed with gfx before ..

spl@t
14-Oct-2003, 15:40
aye same here, my first banners :dozey:

Kahless
15-Oct-2003, 15:04
http://warp9.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tri6.JPG

Whens it being voted on ?

ProfLiebstrom
15-Oct-2003, 15:11
ooo nice i believe i shall make one in my boredom

ProfLiebstrom
15-Oct-2003, 15:27
Wish i had my cam so i could have taken pic of dagan asleep outside at i17 now :<

ProfLiebstrom
15-Oct-2003, 15:31
Double post arghhh

Longbow
15-Oct-2003, 15:46
Talking to yoursleft is the 1st sign of madness, also the 1st sign of a spammer!!!

ProfLiebstrom
15-Oct-2003, 15:52
http://www.profliebstrom.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/trickery.jpg


Just a quick simple one :o

Zeph
15-Oct-2003, 16:02
http://warp9.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/velv1.JPG

Just thought his face fitted nicely .. lmao :lol:

I like this one :) that death stare is amazing ....lol

Kahless
15-Oct-2003, 16:03
I like that one , Any one who can improve on the text i can send the background with face on NP . .
With some nice text it could be a winner .

Zeph
15-Oct-2003, 16:05
I like ur sig too kah :)
Ur quite clever for a yam-yam ;)

xx cya later





secretly.. i do think melly's is funneh :)

Longbow
15-Oct-2003, 16:05
http://warp9.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/velv1.JPG

Just thought his face fitted nicely .. lmao :lol:

I like this one :) that death stare is amazing ....lol

I think it will scare the visitors.

ProfLiebstrom
15-Oct-2003, 16:06
would certainly scare me staring at me

Zeph
15-Oct-2003, 16:07
yeh but for us that know velv, we know he's a pussycat. For newcomers it would make them think twice before pooping in our cornflakes so to speak :)

ProfLiebstrom
15-Oct-2003, 16:09
*ProfLiebstrom doesn't want to know where that phrase came from

spl@t
15-Oct-2003, 16:22
I like ur sig too kah :)


thanks :lol:

Miller
15-Oct-2003, 16:41
http://www.profliebstrom.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/trickery.jpg


Just a quick simple one :o

heheh, nice'ness!! tis good for a "quick simple one" :)

T-Bag
15-Oct-2003, 16:47
http://www.profliebstrom.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/trickery.jpg


Just a quick simple one :o

I think that would fit in quite nice with the site but the 'will work for bandwith' looks a bit out of place.

ProfLiebstrom
15-Oct-2003, 16:49
can easily be changed :x

T-Bag
15-Oct-2003, 16:50
Maybe if the background had a tint of blue/grey like on the site :)

ProfLiebstrom
15-Oct-2003, 16:56
http://www.profliebstrom.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/trickery4.jpg



:x

Miller
15-Oct-2003, 16:58
mmm, impressive

Kahless
15-Oct-2003, 17:35
I like ur sig too kah :)


thanks :lol:

My brains Spl@tts skills :x

Melly
15-Oct-2003, 18:00
secretly.. i do think melly's is funneh :)

muhahaha :naughty:

BlackPope
15-Oct-2003, 18:48
last go with different font

http://www.msnw26453.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/triky3.jpg

Beav
15-Oct-2003, 18:54
http://www.kingpin-leagues.co.uk/files/trickery.jpg

when's the closing date? :/

urgh need food

Longbow
15-Oct-2003, 18:58
ahhh, I like that one Beav. I don't think it needs www. though ;)

But otherwise, really good.

Drkwoman
15-Oct-2003, 19:06
http://www.kingpin-leagues.co.uk/files/trickery.jpg

:o

We have a winna! Mind you, I still like BlackPope's too. Close call :)

ProfLiebstrom
15-Oct-2003, 19:13
i think beevs is too much of a rip off of bygames :p

Beav
15-Oct-2003, 19:24
:E

wooly-back-jack
15-Oct-2003, 19:41
nice that one of Beavs

Longbow
15-Oct-2003, 19:41
Too true. But it's still good.

(100th post! :P I'm a troll!)

ProfLiebstrom
15-Oct-2003, 19:44
congrats troll

velvet
15-Oct-2003, 20:34
Closing date will likely be sometime on Friday, at which point I'll stick up a poll - so feel free to submit new or updated entries!

Beav
15-Oct-2003, 20:37
another one :/

http://www.kingpin-leagues.co.uk/files/trickery2.jpg

Drkwoman
15-Oct-2003, 20:41
Prefer the first one Beav did :)

oxy
15-Oct-2003, 20:42
all CS based .. heathens! :P

Harry Palmer
15-Oct-2003, 20:53
You mean there is another game? wow.

spl@t
15-Oct-2003, 21:09
mine has multiple games :D

how did you do the bullet holes, they look really good

spl@t
15-Oct-2003, 21:10
I like ur sig too kah :)


thanks :lol:

My brains Spl@tts skills :x

have my babies

cupra
15-Oct-2003, 21:18
Beav background colour will go well with the top of the page so it gets my vote.

ProfLiebstrom
15-Oct-2003, 21:20
thats cause the background is the same u mong!

ProfLiebstrom
15-Oct-2003, 21:33
http://www.profliebstrom.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/trickery5.jpg



Slightly diffrent, will probably make a bigger one of it though

[edit] saved as crap quality DOH

Miller
15-Oct-2003, 21:48
http://www.kingpin-leagues.co.uk/files/trickery.jpg

when's the closing date? :/

urgh need food

Wow, another great logo :D thats a brill one

ProfLiebstrom
15-Oct-2003, 21:50
http://www.profliebstrom.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/trickery6.jpg



Another still similiar, will do another latr with more changes :x

Agent47
15-Oct-2003, 22:15
yeah I do like beav's logo, sweet stuff.

Profs' needs to be a little clearer on the url text.

aceman
15-Oct-2003, 22:43
Well I've had a bit of a mess about and came up with.....

http://home.1asphost.com/aceman/linkpics/trickban.gif

Nothing too fancy and I wasn't sure how it would look as I seemed to lose a bit of background colour when saving it.

:|

ProfLiebstrom
15-Oct-2003, 22:44
aye im changing text on mine :p

Agent47
15-Oct-2003, 23:03
you can always go for a transparent bg, although itd be difficult if you use dropshadow.

ProfLiebstrom
15-Oct-2003, 23:19
changing text is easier seen as i have it saved :D

Pod
15-Oct-2003, 23:34
http://poddster.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/art/tricked.png if you cant see the image : http://poddster.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/art/tricked.jpg and get a new bowser


I can't be arsed thinking of a caption for the copper, think it up yourselves :(

note that there is a transparent background thats why its grey / blue whatever. jpg has white background

GroovYF
15-Oct-2003, 23:36
Non game-specific logos I think are better :E

oxy
15-Oct-2003, 23:40
beavs is the new win atm!

Melly
15-Oct-2003, 23:58
i vote for blackpope or beav as i no beav is a l33t gfx artist :E

Zeph
16-Oct-2003, 09:27
I like ur sig too kah :)


thanks :lol:

My brains Spl@tts skills :x

have my babies

me or kah? i'm confused :P

Agent47
16-Oct-2003, 11:49
Pods is way to big to be useful.

Longbow
16-Oct-2003, 12:51
Pods is way to big to be useful.

mmmmm..... Maybe it can be used as toilet paper? :D

Melly
16-Oct-2003, 13:14
for a giant :D

GroovYF
16-Oct-2003, 13:19
Pods is way to big to be useful.
We still talking about the logo? :naughty:

Kahless
16-Oct-2003, 13:31
http://warp9.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tri7.JPG

My last attempt , Not in the class of some who have posted logo's but enjoyed it for my first few attempts at logo making , Plus its got thread back on topic . .

GroovYF
16-Oct-2003, 13:32
drop the capital T's for lowercase ones :)

Kahless
16-Oct-2003, 13:43
yer i could do if it was picked to be used , and they want full use of small case. Be no hassle at all to do that.

Beav
16-Oct-2003, 13:49
same sorta thing but with a nav bar bg thing :/

http://www.kingpin-leagues.co.uk/files/trickery3.jpg
http://www.kingpin-leagues.co.uk/files/trickery4.jpg

Miller
16-Oct-2003, 13:51
The 2nd of the 2 is nice

Kahless
16-Oct-2003, 14:01
I like both of those , But was the logo supposed to be non game specific due to the amount of games covered within the community ?

Kahless
16-Oct-2003, 14:29
http://warp9.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tri8.JPG
http://warp9.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tri9.JPG

Truely my last attempts at a logo , ;)

Lord Fondlemaid
16-Oct-2003, 15:25
I quite like those with the theme of some drunken bum collapsed somewhere.

For me, somehow it just *encapsulates* the spirit of the community :D

L.F.

Agent47
16-Oct-2003, 16:19
flame one is nice, 2nd one is a little messy IMO.

NiTr0
16-Oct-2003, 16:20
Aye the second one looks smart.

oxy
16-Oct-2003, 19:08
to game specific :/

BBW
16-Oct-2003, 20:02
http://home.clara.net/robdowd/logo1.gif



http://home.clara.net/robdowd/logo2.gif



http://home.clara.net/robdowd/logo3.gif

NiTr0
16-Oct-2003, 20:35
Third one is my fave there BBW

Melly
16-Oct-2003, 22:35
same sorta thing but with a nav bar bg thing :/
http://www.kingpin-leagues.co.uk/files/trickery4.jpg

least it has sof2 in :D

DizMatt
17-Oct-2003, 12:39
beav's first one and prof's, I like so far

burundi
17-Oct-2003, 13:56
When is velvet choosing one? i got the impression that he was going to have chosen by now...?

velvet
17-Oct-2003, 13:59
Entries are now closed!

burundi
17-Oct-2003, 15:07
Question answered! :lol:

nick-fury
17-Oct-2003, 15:13
http://www.ffscheat.com/trickery.jpg

Longbow
17-Oct-2003, 15:19
lol, too late nick-fury.

burundi
17-Oct-2003, 15:20
Although it's a pretty good one. Shame.

nick-fury
17-Oct-2003, 15:21
heh, i know it was closed.

Just showing off my 'skills' :P

Longbow
17-Oct-2003, 15:21
Although it's a pretty good one. Shame.

Yes, I have to agree.

hAiNeSy
17-Oct-2003, 20:01
same sorta thing but with a nav bar bg thing :/
http://www.kingpin-leagues.co.uk/files/trickery4.jpg

Best so far tbfh.

Melly
17-Oct-2003, 22:17
Although it's a pretty good one. Shame.

Yes, I have to agree.

i agree too, looks really good lol shame tbh

Little Missy
18-Oct-2003, 00:18
MY VOTE IS FOR POPE!!!!!! :D :D :D