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Ferg
06-Nov-2004, 15:07
Can anyone recommend a decent Java IDE to me please? Preferably something with UML stuff built in, and knowledge of beans... :)

ezt
06-Nov-2004, 16:03
Eclipse (http://www.eclipse.org). There appears to be some UML plugins for it, too :).

Brain_Murders
06-Nov-2004, 17:20
Everyone I know raves about eclipse - don't use java myself these days - way too high level for me :D

Matt
06-Nov-2004, 17:41
I am sort of using eclipse whilst dicking around with ideas for my final year project. Its ok but nothing particuarly amazing IMO. Good for a free thing though.

You could always go back to bluej :D What are you doing for your project ferg?

Pulse
06-Nov-2004, 17:58
LoL we got blueJ in our uni, was gonna suggest it but im 99.99% sure its not up to scratch ;). BlueJ is almost insulting :(

The Dark One
06-Nov-2004, 19:45
Eclipse or the proper IBM WebSphere editor.

Avoid the SUN rubbish :)

Matt
06-Nov-2004, 20:43
LoL we got blueJ in our uni, was gonna suggest it but im 99.99% sure its not up to scratch ;). BlueJ is almost insulting :(

Yeah I hated bluej bitterly. It was annoying because all of our coursework needed to be submitted as blueJ projects and/or have the bluej uml-type diagram :(

Ferg
07-Nov-2004, 15:32
im doing a network protocol simulator using beans for the protocols :)

hmm

ill look at eclipse, i was hoping for something more than bluej :)

Ferg
07-Nov-2004, 15:33
infact, i was hoping for something like bluej++; :)

Matt
07-Nov-2004, 17:20
Yeah I saw that suggestion thing in the big list. Looked quite itneresting. I've still got until September to make my mind up though as I'm on placement but I think I will be doing the voip thing :D

Will the beans be each layer of the stack etc? Or is there more to it than that?

Ferg
08-Nov-2004, 11:56
yeah, the beans implement the individual protocols :)

TheFury
10-Nov-2004, 15:46
J2SE
eclipse or intellij idea (commercial)

J2EE
eclipse +myecliseide (latter is a commercial J2EE plugin - $29pa), intellij idea (commercial), websphere studio application developer (commercial and costly)

Personally I use all three depending on the type of project. Commercial J2EE project = WSAD, private J2EE project =ecliplse + myeclipseide and bog standard j2se = intellij. If I wasn't using lots of J2EE features I'd personally be sticking with intellij and only using WSAD in work because it's a corporate standard.

Eclipse has UML plugins, not sure about IntelliJ. For my own use I purchased Enteprise Architect from Sparx Systems. Dirt cheap and wickedly powerful. Having been (and still am) a user of Rational Rose and Select Enterprise, I'd prefer to use EA over either of them. It's as powerful as the much more costly solutions, and a damn site easier to use. Sparx are currently working on an eclipse model link to their EA application.

the funkmaster
10-Nov-2004, 15:55
Mmm eclipse is good. But pah emacs for win! :P