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NWA 28-Jul-2016 17:42

New Builds (Performance / Enthusiast level, must be quiet)
 
Right, I have decided that it is time to upgrade my creaking i5-2500k / twin 6970 X-fired system

What I don't need:

* SSD - I have a 1TB Samsung EVO
* HDDs - plenty of other storage kicking around internal and external
* Prettiness. I like decent cable management options on a case so that it isn't an arse to take apart at a later date, but I don't give a fuck whether my parts are colour coded. This also means windows in the side of my case are really not particularly necessary.
* To worry about budget too much. I have bought a GTX 1080. I want this thing to last me as long as this last computer has (which was about 5 years with a couple of interim upgrades). Therefore I am willing to spend now to ensure this longevity of use. Thinking of spending 1500ish (on top of what I paid for the GTX 1080) but that isn't a hard limit
* Any sound bits. These will come from the old PC.

What I do need:

* As mentioned, quietness. I've got severely bored of the hum of overly powerful CPU, PSU and GFX fans. Options here would be most appreciated. I have heard of all in one water coolers but as soon as i looked at buying one I was severely confused so if anyone has seen guides about what size of radiator plate I need etc., that would be appreciated. Also I have seen some water coolers that still have fans. What gives? Quiet is a top priority.
* A new monitor to justify that GFX card (hence the still sizeable rough budget). I have an ageing 1080p monitor which would be the limiting factor in the graphics stakes by the time I have finished. I would like G sync and high frame-rates before 4K but if the holy trifecta has been developed, please do tell.
* New monitor should be mountable on a VESA mount, or not have a stupid looking stand like some of the current gen of monitors do.
* A new case. The current one is an utter dust trap. Removing as many fans as possible from the equation should help, but still.
* RAM - future proof if possible? DDR4-3200? Is 1 8GB stick enough for the moment with expansion slots to add more later? This is purely for gaming, I don't envisage needing to run a hyper v cluster.
* Mobo - onboard sound, onboard gfx desirable for trouble shooting, well designed for putting things together, plenty of USB3 connectors, reliable, etc.. Should be able to SLI in the future if I wish.
* Should probably get a new OS. I lost my win7 serial in an upgrade a while ago and I have been surviving with SLMGR / REARM and the occasional regedit from safemode. Nothing I have seen about Windows 10's data collection / advertising antics make me particularly want it but willing to be persuaded otherwise if there are advantages to it. DirectX?

Inertiaman 28-Jul-2016 18:29

TL;DR but CPU closed circuit cooler yes - don't bother with a double radiator though unless you're clocking. Spend money on two good case fans (top extract and rad/rear) and spend some time in the fan manager of your mobo making it not retarded. Good PSU's come silent now anyway.

Randell 31-Jul-2016 11:17

I have a NZXT Kraken on my CPU, and whilst not the dearest CPU liquid cooler, its very very quiet. I cant hear the fan at all.

Useless 31-Jul-2016 12:33

Have a look at the Be Quiet! cases. They come with or without windows and are very quiet and with dust filters on them.
http://www.bequiet.com/en/case

Eja Cool8 31-Jul-2016 14:52

CPU + liquid cooler+ Mobo & RAM bundle;

https://www.scan.co.uk/3xs/configura...bundle-x99oc10

Case-wise, this if you want something cheap(ish);

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/ante...d-dampening-an

Perhaps this if you fancy something meatier;

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/silv...indow-(w-o-psu)

PSU;

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/860w...n-atx-v231-psu

Monitor; yer more basic option;

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/27-d...mdp-hdmi-black

or go all G-Sync;

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/27-a...x-usb-30-black

OS? Not much wrong with Win 10. :)

NWA 01-Aug-2016 20:09

Component Selection
CPU Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler Corsair H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard Asus MAXIMUS VIII HERO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
Memory G.Skill TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory
Storage Samsung 850 EVO-Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card
Case Corsair 750D Airflow Edition ATX Full Tower Case
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA P2 1200W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Optical Drive Samsung SH-B123L/RSBP Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit
Monitor Acer Predator X34 34.0" 100Hz Monitor

Current build (finished last night)

Will SLi that 1080 when it starts to slow down.

CaptainTrips 02-Aug-2016 00:32

You should consider a PCI-e M.2 SSD as well with that kind of rig. An extra 100 isn't going to hurt for the fastest boot drive available. Something like the Samsung SM951.

Inertiaman 02-Aug-2016 07:07

Take that optical out you dirty peasant.

Lungboy 02-Aug-2016 09:14

The Asus motherboards really don't justify their daft price. 1200w PSU is a monster. Don't sli your 1080, flog your current one and add the cash to the price of the second one to get a 1080ti/1180 or whatever. For the case I'd go for a Fractal R5 or NZXT H440.

Inertiaman 02-Aug-2016 09:48

Those fractals really are my cup of tea.

NWA 02-Aug-2016 09:50

The optical and SSD came out of the old machine. The optical already made my life easier getting the NIC working from the mobo drivers CD so it stays for the times when it really is just the easiest option - until manufacturers start sending out drivers on USB sticks probably :)

The mobo was just north of 160 on a deal on Amazon when I bought it and I got same day delivery which did come into account for my buying decision also.

This is all already bought, I'm not changing case now! I like plain looking cases so NZXT can suck my dick. Fractal r5 looks good but also looks like a midi tower. I've gone from midi to full ATX and I am really glad I did. Makes cable management so much easier.

Orange 02-Aug-2016 09:53

They're brilliant, I have one (per Trickery's recommendation!)

Inertiaman 02-Aug-2016 10:12

http://i.imgur.com/4Y3b4i5.jpg

Scrobbs 02-Aug-2016 10:32

Your such a downer, Lung!

Lungboy 02-Aug-2016 11:27

Sorry! I didn't know it had all been purchased, I thought he was asking for advice :)

Q-Target 22-Sep-2016 12:33

Threadsurrection for my long overdue 5 yearly upgrade.

Doing the Overclockers custom build thing because I cba with all that screwdriver wankery anymore. Intended for gaming/photoshop stuff.

Budget is between 800 - 1100 and this comes in 1117 which I'll swallow if I can't squeeze out some unnecessary expenditure.

Form up Criticotron!

MOBO: Asus Z170-E Intel Z170 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard
CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.9GHz (Skylake) Socket LGA1151 Processor
RAM: Team Group Elite 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-19200C16 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black
Case: be quiet! Silent Base 600 Midi Tower Case - Silver
CPU Cooler: Corsair Hydro H55 Quiet Liquid CPU Cooler
PSU: Corsair CX-M Series 650W 80 Plus Bronze Semi Modular Power Supply
SSD: Samsung 250GB 750 EVO SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps Solid State Drive
GFX: Gigabyte Radeon RX 480 G1 Gaming 8192MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
HDD: Seagate 3TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache HDD

Inertiaman 22-Sep-2016 12:36

Got to be tempting to mirror your magnetic drives isn't it?

Q-Target 22-Sep-2016 12:42

I've got 2x2TB in my current rig running in RAID1 but I just mourn the loss of the 2TB that will never be.

NWA 22-Sep-2016 12:47

Photoshop is one of the few places you will see benefit from an i7 if you fancy adjusting to fit that in. Any specific thinking for going with the rx 480 over the gtx 1060? Anything you can salvage from your old build to help with the budget?

Q-Target 22-Sep-2016 13:14

My old build is a 5 year old Dell Studio XPS AMD hexcore and appears to run on a combination of noise, luck and dust. I've got a 250MB SSD that I could salvage which will potentially save a few quid and the need to buy another OS but I probably won't. The graphics and RAM are too outdated to be of any use.

devs 22-Sep-2016 13:15

i7, m.2 SSD and an nvidia gfx card wld be things I wld massively recommend. Out of the 3, i would prob have m.2, although i7 always been beast for me.

Q-Target 22-Sep-2016 13:15

I don't have any Bugaboos lying around in my shed to throw at an i7.

Q-Target 22-Sep-2016 13:15

Nor do I have a shed in which to store them.

Lungboy 22-Sep-2016 13:19

What monitor do you have, and are you likely to upgrade it soon? If it has freesync or you're likely to upgrade to one with freesync soon, then the 480 is ok, otherwise go for the cheapest 6gb 1060 they have. I'll have a fiddle with their configurererer.

e: swap the ram over to the Corsair LPX 3000mhz. It's pricier but faster. If you don't want to bother with faster ram then you might as well go for an H170 build and a cheaper 6500 or 6600.

Lungboy 22-Sep-2016 13:31

Not sure why, but if I put your build in I get the total as 1129 without an OS.

Lungboy 22-Sep-2016 13:44

I'd probably go for the Z170-A over the -E, better onboard audio and a few other things for a small price change.

Lungboy 22-Sep-2016 14:06

Corsair RX PSUs are the dogs', but their CX aren't so hot. It's not in stock but the EVGA supernova 550w GS would be a better option imo.

Q-Target 22-Sep-2016 14:16

Cheers, Rob. Above and beyond matey.

xxx

Q-Target 22-Sep-2016 14:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lungboy (Post 1342498)
What monitor do you have, and are you likely to upgrade it soon? If it has freesync or you're likely to upgrade to one with freesync soon, then the 480 is ok, otherwise go for the cheapest 6gb 1060 they have. I'll have a fiddle with their configurererer.

e: swap the ram over to the Corsair LPX 3000mhz. It's pricier but faster. If you don't want to bother with faster ram then you might as well go for an H170 build and a cheaper 6500 or 6600.

I've got a couple to choose from. One's a dated Samsung pebble of some description and the other is a Samsung HD TV/Monitor. Both are at least 5 years old so unlikely to have any fancy gubbins.

Q-Target 22-Sep-2016 14:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lungboy (Post 1342499)
Not sure why, but if I put your build in I get the total as 1129 without an OS.

I probably left out a few bits that didn't contribute to performance.


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