Valve to release console? - Page 2

Inertiaman · 26-Apr-2012, 14:07

I don't think it'll move that quickly as long as people still want cutting edge graphics. Even if tablets can do what a 7970 can do now in five years one presumes there'll be an even fatter capability on desktops of the day. I really want a convergence of google glasses and my games pc for example. I'm wearing a headset all the time I'm playing so why not have a sexy iron man style floating hud in front of me with game info/mumble etc augmenting my monitor?

PC's just allow such a rapid development pace that consoles and tabs will always lag behind a bit. I guess the only time that changes is when bandwidth improves to the point where the tab/glasses etc are just a delivery device for a fat virtual pc that you rent somewhere.

EvilGrin · 26-Apr-2012, 15:03

People keep claiming the PC will die, yet it never seems to manage to.

huckan · 26-Apr-2012, 15:06

My PC keeps fecking dying

T3CH^ · 26-Apr-2012, 16:13

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Originally Posted by Inertiaman

I really want a convergence of google glasses and my games pc for example.

Convergence you say?

Spazwankle · 26-Apr-2012, 16:37

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Originally Posted by EvilGrin

People keep claiming the PC will die, yet it never seems to manage to.

I think the difference with the current state of tech and the age olde argument on the death of the PC, is that everything was still seperate and you where making a choice between one or other.

A PC could do everything, a console would play games, a phone would make phonecalls. Now with such a convergence of technology, all these other devices can do the same tasks that your PC can do. You can watch films on your console, you can mix music on your tablet, you can play games on your phone.

I agree with Nersh that the PC will always be the cutting edge, but it's gradually going to become more niche because the only reason to get a top of the range PC would only be for gaming reasons. In the past, the average family could justify a £1000 PC because as well as running the latest games, it would make Word run faster and you could now watch movies on there! Woo!

Now, a PC for £200 would do all those other things, just without the latest games. But then again so can your tablet...

Inertiaman · 26-Apr-2012, 16:39

Sod all that Tech! I just want it that when I look at my actual monitor there are several apps floating around next to it and above it! I just don't have enough desktop!

Inertiaman · 26-Apr-2012, 16:40

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Originally Posted by Spazwankle

. But then again so can your tablet...

For a scant 700 quid in apple's case

Spazwankle · 26-Apr-2012, 16:52

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Originally Posted by Inertiaman

For a scant 700 quid in apple's case

So true

T3CH^ · 26-Apr-2012, 16:57

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Originally Posted by Inertiaman

Sod all that Tech! I just want it that when I look at my actual monitor there are several apps floating around next to it and above it! I just don't have enough desktop!

Get a multiscreen setup then. Far cheaper.

Inertiaman · 26-Apr-2012, 17:03

The whole point is NOT needing another couple of 27 inchers and a desk to put them on. Plus it would be cool as fuck.

Orange · 26-Apr-2012, 17:16

Difficult to overstate the importance of the latter, at least until I stand on them

mr_o · 27-Apr-2012, 16:24

HUD overlay on your Google specs whilst driving. Danger zone blaring. GO!!!

cunning-stunt · 04-Sep-2012, 12:02

On an advert posted yesterday, it looks like Valve may be going into hardware after all.

http://kotaku.com/5940111/yep-looks-...aking-hardware

Inertiaman · 04-Sep-2012, 12:19

That certainly doesn't scream console in the first case mind.

Scrobbs · 04-Sep-2012, 12:48

There's a kickstarter going around for a company looking to make a wearable VR helmet. One that actually works. Perhaps that's the way they will be going.

Orange · 04-Sep-2012, 16:20

There's a great interview on Eurogamer with Carmack about Oculus Rift from E3. Excellent read for the technologically challenged.

Also, that advert reads more like being angled at input devices.

Eja Cool8 · 04-Sep-2012, 16:22

Beeb view of the Valve recruitment thing;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19475312

Scrobbs · 04-Sep-2012, 16:32

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Originally Posted by Orange

There's a great interview on Eurogamer with Carmack about Oculus Rift from E3. Excellent read for the technologically challenged.

Also, that advert reads more like being angled at input devices.

Just looked it up - that may indeed be the one my friend mentioned. He's put in enough dough that will get him one of the prototype headsets whenever it's ready. The reason I think it might be the same one is that he mentioned that it will be out the box compatible with Doom 3. I believe this might be the one:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...-into-the-game

Orange · 04-Sep-2012, 16:34

Yeah it is the same one

Scrobbs · 04-Sep-2012, 16:39

Well. It looks bloody brilliant.

Orange · 04-Sep-2012, 16:59

Yep, sounds ace, hopefully it's not a novelty!

GLoBaL ChiLLaGe · 04-Sep-2012, 21:46

.awesome

PsYcHoKiLLa · 04-Sep-2012, 21:56

That headset would be really cool if the resolutions weren't so low. Just think it'll spoil the possible immersion when it's full of low res jaggies. Also, why the hell didn't they just go the whole hog and stick some headphones in it too? Wearing separate headphones will probably get sore quite fast with that thick strap trying to jostle for position on your cranium.

The Valve console was always coming though, seems to me it'll be just like a shuttle PC in a custom box with Linux pre-installed and Steam automatically booting up with the 10 foot interface. Valve seemed determined to go down the fuck Microsoft road. Doubt Gabe will get invited to any Microsoft Alumni parties.

Orange · 04-Sep-2012, 22:07

Can a Linux distro be made to have anything resembling an effective DRM system?

PsYcHoKiLLa · 04-Sep-2012, 22:32

I would think the copy protection would only be in the Steam application, doesn't really make any difference what platform it's on.

Orange · 04-Sep-2012, 22:38

I only ask because Android seems to have been such a disaster from a DRM perspective. I thought the OS had some impact on that, but I am the layest of laymen...

Orange · 04-Sep-2012, 22:39

Gah, Nersh points out that iTunes isn't relying on OSX for its DRM.... I'll stick to numbers

Inertiaman · 04-Sep-2012, 23:19

I think the decision not to neuter the proliferation of apps is intentional on googles part, hard to specifically say why but I assume they're banking on the rapid of android and it's apps due to ease of installation making better progress against apple's market share and would rather be an open market at the cost of quality than stand in the way of someone clicking ok. Devs will cite cases where it's harder to make money of android apps vs itunes but that doesn't seem to be enough to dissuade the vast majority.

Orange · 06-Sep-2012, 08:53

More Rift thoughts:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...u-want-to-hurl

Inertiaman · 06-Sep-2012, 11:55

My brother has never been able to play FPS's in 2d without much the same result. I'm prepared to work on my sealegs if it means I can sit in a mech cockpit without getting the plywood out.

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Scrobbs Sunnyvale Supervisor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In the pipe, five by five. Posts: 13,554	There's a kickstarter going around for a company looking to make a wearable VR helmet. One that actually works. Perhaps that's the way they will be going. __________________ http://bit.ly/debatethebill

04-Sep-2012, 16:22	#47
Eja Cool8 Member shown actual size Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 9,036	Beeb view of the Valve recruitment thing; http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19475312 __________________ "A friend of mine described her disgust as two Blackwater mercs, shortly after introducing themselves, proposed a two-on-one sex act that involved one of the men ejaculating on the other." Steve Fainaru: "Big Boy Rules"

26-Apr-2012, 17:16	#41
Orange member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,662	Difficult to overstate the importance of the latter, at least until I stand on them

04-Sep-2012, 12:02	#43
cunning-stunt will post for food Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,204	On an advert posted yesterday, it looks like Valve may be going into hardware after all. http://kotaku.com/5940111/yep-looks-...aking-hardware

04-Sep-2012, 16:20	#46
Orange member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,662	There's a great interview on Eurogamer with Carmack about Oculus Rift from E3. Excellent read for the technologically challenged. Also, that advert reads more like being angled at input devices.

04-Sep-2012, 16:34	#49
Orange member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,662	Yeah it is the same one

04-Sep-2012, 16:39	#50
Scrobbs Sunnyvale Supervisor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In the pipe, five by five. Posts: 13,554	Well. It looks bloody brilliant. __________________ http://bit.ly/debatethebill

04-Sep-2012, 16:59	#51
Orange member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,662	Yep, sounds ace, hopefully it's not a novelty!

04-Sep-2012, 21:46	#52
GLoBaL ChiLLaGe Bosh! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Guernsey Posts: 3,189	.awesome

04-Sep-2012, 21:56	#53
PsYcHoKiLLa spam tbh Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 959	That headset would be really cool if the resolutions weren't so low. Just think it'll spoil the possible immersion when it's full of low res jaggies. Also, why the hell didn't they just go the whole hog and stick some headphones in it too? Wearing separate headphones will probably get sore quite fast with that thick strap trying to jostle for position on your cranium. The Valve console was always coming though, seems to me it'll be just like a shuttle PC in a custom box with Linux pre-installed and Steam automatically booting up with the 10 foot interface. Valve seemed determined to go down the fuck Microsoft road. Doubt Gabe will get invited to any Microsoft Alumni parties. Last edited by PsYcHoKiLLa; 04-Sep-2012 at 22:07.

04-Sep-2012, 22:07	#54
Orange member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,662	Can a Linux distro be made to have anything resembling an effective DRM system?

04-Sep-2012, 22:32	#55
PsYcHoKiLLa spam tbh Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 959	I would think the copy protection would only be in the Steam application, doesn't really make any difference what platform it's on.

04-Sep-2012, 22:38	#56
Orange member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,662	I only ask because Android seems to have been such a disaster from a DRM perspective. I thought the OS had some impact on that, but I am the layest of laymen...

04-Sep-2012, 22:39	#57
Orange member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,662	Gah, Nersh points out that iTunes isn't relying on OSX for its DRM.... I'll stick to numbers

06-Sep-2012, 08:53	#59
Orange member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,662	More Rift thoughts: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...u-want-to-hurl