The Queen Elizabeth-Class Aircraft Carrier thread - Page 5

Eja Cool8 · 23-Apr-2012, 18:54

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Originally Posted by mr_o

The cats will be ready before the ship is because they need to be ready for the American carrier first. They have done their land tests. Next up is putting it on barge or some kind of floating platform to fling planes properly.

Going by the statements to the Defence Select Committee at the tail end of last year (almost the only thing I watch BBC Parliament for), the EM cats will be fitted to HMS QE first, before the new USS JFK (at least it was going to be called the JFK last I looked). So the RN's the guinea pig. Tbh, we're going to be leaning on the septics and French for training/work-ups anyway, it being so long between Carriers being in service and flying ops, that a few more Yank contractors knocking around won't be noticed.

mr_o · 23-Apr-2012, 19:07

http://www.janes.com/products/janes/...?ID=1065930314

Ford gets it first. Prince of Wales gets the second one to be made. Queen Elizabeth doesn't get one at launch.

Eja Cool8 · 26-Apr-2012, 16:35

Hmm, senior RN Officer in "getting his facts a tad twisted in front of the DSC", partial shocker.

I hadn't realised the Yanks were calling their new CVNs the Gerry Ford class though-he was best known for falling flat on his face when getting out of aircraft, as I recall

Now if they had called them the Betty Ford Class, that would have been something; "Ma! I got that posting I wanted-ah'm goin' on the Betty Ford!"

"*SLAP* You never old me you was on drugs goddamit! Wait'll your old man hears about this-you're for a whuppin' son!"

mr_o · 27-Apr-2012, 17:15

Yeah Gerry Ford. Strange one. Especially as the second ship is to be the John F Kennedy. Thought they would have done it the other way round.

mr_o · 10-May-2012, 10:11

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18008171

Balls!!

Hot Soup · 10-May-2012, 12:14

They could always leave the door open for the unused carrier to get traps and cats ( assuming that the ridiculous cost came back to reasonable levels ) ?

Eja Cool8 · 10-May-2012, 16:05

I thought, after the SDSR, that the last-minute decision to go with the cat version was odd tbh. More so after watching front-bench posturing in the Commons-the claims that Labour; "...couldn't decide.." on which version of the Lightning II to buy-and that now the Tories were in charge, they'd do the job right...

Now we're back with the thorny question of which AWACS bird to fly off the Carriers, the latest E-3 variant no longer being an option.

Eja Cool8 · 15-May-2012, 15:43

Aussies starting to get a little skittish over the cost of their F-35s.

Had a feeling things might pan out this way for some nations. Exchequers balking at the cost, development/production delays at source, shades of the Typhoon experience almost. One can only hope that things move along a wee bit quicker in this instance, as there's a dirty great Carrier taking shape just a few miles up the road from where I'm sitting which will need aircraft.

Eja Cool8 · 28-Jun-2012, 16:34

USMC aiming to have first operational F-35B Squadron up by November.

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...vember-373070/

Eja Cool8 · 10-Jul-2012, 16:45

...and we get delivery of our first one..

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...t-f-35-373942/

Eja Cool8 · 25-Jul-2012, 17:00

Vid from Rosyth showing just how little wiggle room there is in that assembly dock to put the blocks of the carriers together.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-18803711

Eja Cool8 · 14-Aug-2012, 16:16

F-35B drops first ordnance..

http://www.defencetalk.com/f-35-comp...aration-44168/

Eja Cool8 · 15-Aug-2012, 16:08

Video for same;

Eja Cool8 · 30-Aug-2012, 17:51

US test Pilot and USMC Col. Arthur Tomassetti speaks his brains on what's so good about the F-35B;

http://www.defencetalk.com/f-35-open...-forces-44370/

Inertiaman · 30-Aug-2012, 18:45

A man of few words!

Eja Cool8 · 31-Aug-2012, 14:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inertiaman

A man of few words!

See kiddies, this is what happens when you're old, half-demented, and more intent on googling some nice aircraft imagery than anything else

mr_o · 31-Aug-2012, 15:02

It is an impressive piece of engineering but I can't help feeling that while it will be fine we will lose out on other aspects of the carriers abilities that will lessen its ability overall.

Not that I am really that surprised.

Eja Cool8 · 31-Aug-2012, 15:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_o

It is an impressive piece of engineering but I can't help feeling that while it will be fine we will lose out on other aspects of the carriers abilities that will lessen its ability overall.

Not that I am really that surprised.

Ahhh, it's the mantra; "...fitted for but not with.." that's currently in vogue. In theory, the design-along with that of the Type 45s and future Type 26/27s-will be adaptable enough, with modular sections etc., that major changes can be made with relatively little hassle.

In theory.

Eja Cool8 · 11-Sep-2012, 16:03

Nice cutaway graphic showing the complexity of the beast.

2424x1626, hope you've got a big monitor

http://www.fyjs.cn/bbs/attachments/M...82e0f5e178.jpg

Eja Cool8 · 02-Oct-2012, 18:42

First crew member, Leading Hand Claire Butler, joins HMS QE, five years before ship's due completion..

http://www.defencemanagement.com/new...y.asp?id=21032

Lima Whisky · 02-Oct-2012, 21:49

And the figure head was a etc etc etc...

Eja Cool8 · 14-Oct-2012, 14:54

HMS QE's main aft block (lower 04), containing the engineering section, amongst others, leaves Govan on the Clyde, bound for Rosyth.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-west-19932065

Eja Cool8 · 16-Oct-2012, 17:04

Cameron visits Rosyth for tea and a pie

http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/De...nstruction.htm

Eja Cool8 · 19-Oct-2012, 16:03

Renamed this fecker, been meaning to do it for ages, seeing as we no longer have to ask where the CVF is, and it's no longer called the CVF anyway

Baby Bear · 24-Oct-2012, 18:01

We only refer to them as ship 1 and ship 2!

Eja Cool8 · 24-Oct-2012, 18:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Bear

We only refer to them as ship 1 and ship 2!

QE is a fine enough name, I still maintain the PoW should be renamed Ark Royal..

Baby Bear · 24-Oct-2012, 19:44

Believe me when you have to say the name a thousand times a day its known as ship 1 and ship 2.

still risks associated with only building 1 and lying up the rest of the blocks of ship 2!

Brocken · 24-Oct-2012, 20:05

Interesting:

burundi · 24-Oct-2012, 20:18

Never knew they had so many carriers, I expect a few are laid up at the moment, not all will be to sea.

Hot Soup · 24-Oct-2012, 21:13

I'm pretty sure it's only the Nimitz class ones that are actively commissioned, with a a couple of Ford class , the replacements under construction. Like for us , our two on that diagram aren't active.

23-Apr-2012, 19:07	#122
mr_o empty minds post alike Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 9,076	http://www.janes.com/products/janes/...?ID=1065930314 Ford gets it first. Prince of Wales gets the second one to be made. Queen Elizabeth doesn't get one at launch. __________________ As the ancient Tibetan philosphy states, 'Don't start none -- won't be none!.'" - Jake Jense

26-Apr-2012, 16:35	#123
Eja Cool8 Member shown actual size Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 9,009	Hmm, senior RN Officer in "getting his facts a tad twisted in front of the DSC", partial shocker. I hadn't realised the Yanks were calling their new CVNs the Gerry Ford class though-he was best known for falling flat on his face when getting out of aircraft, as I recall Now if they had called them the Betty Ford Class, that would have been something; "Ma! I got that posting I wanted-ah'm goin' on the Betty Ford!" "SLAP You never old me you was on drugs goddamit! Wait'll your old man hears about this-you're for a whuppin' son!" __________________ "A friend of mine described her disgust as two Blackwater mercs, shortly after introducing themselves, proposed a two-on-one sex act that involved one of the men ejaculating on the other." Steve Fainaru: "Big Boy Rules"

27-Apr-2012, 17:15	#124
mr_o empty minds post alike Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 9,076	Yeah Gerry Ford. Strange one. Especially as the second ship is to be the John F Kennedy. Thought they would have done it the other way round. __________________ As the ancient Tibetan philosphy states, 'Don't start none -- won't be none!.'" - Jake Jense

10-May-2012, 10:11	#125
mr_o empty minds post alike Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 9,076	http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18008171 Balls!! __________________ As the ancient Tibetan philosphy states, 'Don't start none -- won't be none!.'" - Jake Jense

10-May-2012, 12:14	#126
Hot Soup to post or not to post Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Scotland Tournaments Won: 1 Posts: 3,570	They could always leave the door open for the unused carrier to get traps and cats ( assuming that the ridiculous cost came back to reasonable levels ) ? __________________ "Thats a lie." "Yes it is. What's your point." Why'd you open your bong hole you smelly hippy? You'd sacrifice a beautiful woman to save a moderately attractive monkey? Hawks of the Luftwaffe!

10-May-2012, 16:05	#127
Eja Cool8 Member shown actual size Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 9,009	I thought, after the SDSR, that the last-minute decision to go with the cat version was odd tbh. More so after watching front-bench posturing in the Commons-the claims that Labour; "...couldn't decide.." on which version of the Lightning II to buy-and that now the Tories were in charge, they'd do the job right... Now we're back with the thorny question of which AWACS bird to fly off the Carriers, the latest E-3 variant no longer being an option. __________________ "A friend of mine described her disgust as two Blackwater mercs, shortly after introducing themselves, proposed a two-on-one sex act that involved one of the men ejaculating on the other." Steve Fainaru: "Big Boy Rules"

15-May-2012, 15:43	#128
Eja Cool8 Member shown actual size Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 9,009	Aussies starting to get a little skittish over the cost of their F-35s. Had a feeling things might pan out this way for some nations. Exchequers balking at the cost, development/production delays at source, shades of the Typhoon experience almost. One can only hope that things move along a wee bit quicker in this instance, as there's a dirty great Carrier taking shape just a few miles up the road from where I'm sitting which will need aircraft. __________________ "A friend of mine described her disgust as two Blackwater mercs, shortly after introducing themselves, proposed a two-on-one sex act that involved one of the men ejaculating on the other." Steve Fainaru: "Big Boy Rules"

28-Jun-2012, 16:34	#129
Eja Cool8 Member shown actual size Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 9,009	USMC aiming to have first operational F-35B Squadron up by November. http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...vember-373070/ __________________ "A friend of mine described her disgust as two Blackwater mercs, shortly after introducing themselves, proposed a two-on-one sex act that involved one of the men ejaculating on the other." Steve Fainaru: "Big Boy Rules"

10-Jul-2012, 16:45	#130
Eja Cool8 Member shown actual size Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 9,009	...and we get delivery of our first one.. http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...t-f-35-373942/ __________________ "A friend of mine described her disgust as two Blackwater mercs, shortly after introducing themselves, proposed a two-on-one sex act that involved one of the men ejaculating on the other." Steve Fainaru: "Big Boy Rules"

25-Jul-2012, 17:00	#131
Eja Cool8 Member shown actual size Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 9,009	Vid from Rosyth showing just how little wiggle room there is in that assembly dock to put the blocks of the carriers together. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-18803711 __________________ "A friend of mine described her disgust as two Blackwater mercs, shortly after introducing themselves, proposed a two-on-one sex act that involved one of the men ejaculating on the other." Steve Fainaru: "Big Boy Rules"

14-Aug-2012, 16:16	#132
Eja Cool8 Member shown actual size Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 9,009	F-35B drops first ordnance.. http://www.defencetalk.com/f-35-comp...aration-44168/ __________________ "A friend of mine described her disgust as two Blackwater mercs, shortly after introducing themselves, proposed a two-on-one sex act that involved one of the men ejaculating on the other." Steve Fainaru: "Big Boy Rules"

15-Aug-2012, 16:08	#133
Eja Cool8 Member shown actual size Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 9,009	Video for same; __________________ "A friend of mine described her disgust as two Blackwater mercs, shortly after introducing themselves, proposed a two-on-one sex act that involved one of the men ejaculating on the other." Steve Fainaru: "Big Boy Rules"

30-Aug-2012, 17:51	#134
Eja Cool8 Member shown actual size Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 9,009	US test Pilot and USMC Col. Arthur Tomassetti speaks his brains on what's so good about the F-35B; http://www.defencetalk.com/f-35-open...-forces-44370/ __________________ "A friend of mine described her disgust as two Blackwater mercs, shortly after introducing themselves, proposed a two-on-one sex act that involved one of the men ejaculating on the other." Steve Fainaru: "Big Boy Rules" Last edited by Eja Cool8; 31-Aug-2012 at 14:32.

31-Aug-2012, 15:02	#137
mr_o empty minds post alike Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 9,076	It is an impressive piece of engineering but I can't help feeling that while it will be fine we will lose out on other aspects of the carriers abilities that will lessen its ability overall. Not that I am really that surprised. __________________ As the ancient Tibetan philosphy states, 'Don't start none -- won't be none!.'" - Jake Jense

11-Sep-2012, 16:03	#139
Eja Cool8 Member shown actual size Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 9,009	Nice cutaway graphic showing the complexity of the beast. 2424x1626, hope you've got a big monitor http://www.fyjs.cn/bbs/attachments/M...82e0f5e178.jpg __________________ "A friend of mine described her disgust as two Blackwater mercs, shortly after introducing themselves, proposed a two-on-one sex act that involved one of the men ejaculating on the other." Steve Fainaru: "Big Boy Rules"

02-Oct-2012, 18:42	#140
Eja Cool8 Member shown actual size Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 9,009	First crew member, Leading Hand Claire Butler, joins HMS QE, five years before ship's due completion.. http://www.defencemanagement.com/new...y.asp?id=21032 __________________ "A friend of mine described her disgust as two Blackwater mercs, shortly after introducing themselves, proposed a two-on-one sex act that involved one of the men ejaculating on the other." Steve Fainaru: "Big Boy Rules"

02-Oct-2012, 21:49	#141
Lima Whisky Always watching. Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Mars Posts: 366	And the figure head was a etc etc etc...

14-Oct-2012, 14:54	#142
Eja Cool8 Member shown actual size Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 9,009	HMS QE's main aft block (lower 04), containing the engineering section, amongst others, leaves Govan on the Clyde, bound for Rosyth. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-west-19932065 __________________ "A friend of mine described her disgust as two Blackwater mercs, shortly after introducing themselves, proposed a two-on-one sex act that involved one of the men ejaculating on the other." Steve Fainaru: "Big Boy Rules" Last edited by Eja Cool8; 16-Oct-2012 at 17:06.

16-Oct-2012, 17:04	#143
Eja Cool8 Member shown actual size Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 9,009	Cameron visits Rosyth for tea and a pie http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/De...nstruction.htm __________________ "A friend of mine described her disgust as two Blackwater mercs, shortly after introducing themselves, proposed a two-on-one sex act that involved one of the men ejaculating on the other." Steve Fainaru: "Big Boy Rules"

19-Oct-2012, 16:03	#144
Eja Cool8 Member shown actual size Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 9,009	Renamed this fecker, been meaning to do it for ages, seeing as we no longer have to ask where the CVF is, and it's no longer called the CVF anyway __________________ "A friend of mine described her disgust as two Blackwater mercs, shortly after introducing themselves, proposed a two-on-one sex act that involved one of the men ejaculating on the other." Steve Fainaru: "Big Boy Rules"

24-Oct-2012, 18:01	#145
Baby Bear don't care enough to post Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the South Hams, Devon Posts: 513	We only refer to them as ship 1 and ship 2!

24-Oct-2012, 19:44	#147
Baby Bear don't care enough to post Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the South Hams, Devon Posts: 513	Believe me when you have to say the name a thousand times a day its known as ship 1 and ship 2. still risks associated with only building 1 and lying up the rest of the blocks of ship 2!

24-Oct-2012, 20:05	#148
Brocken Bit lost Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 4,833	Interesting:

24-Oct-2012, 20:18	#149
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24-Oct-2012, 21:13	#150
Hot Soup to post or not to post Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Scotland Tournaments Won: 1 Posts: 3,570	I'm pretty sure it's only the Nimitz class ones that are actively commissioned, with a a couple of Ford class , the replacements under construction. Like for us , our two on that diagram aren't active. __________________ "Thats a lie." "Yes it is. What's your point." Why'd you open your bong hole you smelly hippy? You'd sacrifice a beautiful woman to save a moderately attractive monkey? Hawks of the Luftwaffe!