Iraq (again) - Page 7

EvilGrin · 10-Oct-2014, 18:42

While all eyes are on Northern Syria, ISIS are getting closer to Baghdad airport. They are armed with MANPADs too just to make it even more inconvenient.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/isis-wit...-with-manpads/

[n00b]Zippy · 11-Oct-2014, 12:28

Are they the male equivalent of a pantie-liner? If so, did you mean "incontinent"?

EvilGrin · 11-Oct-2014, 13:08

Here's my definition of inconvenient. This is what happens when you deploy helicopters without ground support (Edit: This is a Mi-35 that was shot down on the 3rd, Edit2: Firing a Chinese FN-6):

I imagine it wont be long until they shoot down some of the Apache's the US is planning to deploy either. Does anyone remember Karbala 2003 I wonder?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_attack_on_Karbala

Inertiaman · 11-Oct-2014, 14:41

America sending the army in. Source or more inappropiately gleeful conjecture?

Ashen · 11-Oct-2014, 15:08

CNN reported they were used around 5 days ago

EvilGrin · 11-Oct-2014, 17:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inertiaman

America sending the army in. Source or more inappropiately gleeful conjecture?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...inst-Isil.html

Inertiaman · 11-Oct-2014, 18:28

They still have a manned US base at Baghdad airport. Wouldn't worry too much about those Apaches coming to harm beyond it.

Nomad · 14-Oct-2014, 21:52

dutch happy to help, expect more will pop over to lend a hand now and they have a bit of experience with heavy weaponry from guns to rocket launchers

EvilGrin · 15-Oct-2014, 13:04

Well this is embarrasing for Iraq. Their 3rd largest military base, Hit, has fallen to ISIS.

Quote:

ISIS have seized the contents of the base and the training camp, including tanks, heavy weapons, munitions and stores, as well as spare parts and different military supplies

http://www.iraqinews.com/iraq-war/ur...pons-supplies/

Ashen · 15-Oct-2014, 13:55

Jesus wept once the army had withdrawn why not just wipe the base out from the air and kill a fuck ton of isis in the process?

Are we trying to lose this on purpose or we have a bunch of useless fuck heads in charge?

EvilGrin · 15-Oct-2014, 16:11

An air strike was requested from coalition forces but was denied. I'm guessing ISIS have moved all the kit by now. Don't forget the ISIS commanders are ex-Sadam era senior military too. Plus the Iraq army is a demoralised mess without any solid leadership. It's not surprising or new that they ran.

Nomad · 15-Oct-2014, 18:17

a guerilla in a crowd is hard to spot. give a beardy a tank and you can pick him out from a mile away. get to the choppa!!!

EvilGrin · 15-Oct-2014, 18:29

It's fairly easy to hide a tank from inquisitive aircraft.

Inertiaman · 15-Oct-2014, 18:48

Christ JSTARS was a big waste of money then.

EvilGrin · 16-Oct-2014, 08:57

E-8's are only any good at finding tanks actually conducting combat operations (i.e. moving) in a recognisable formation (remember this is a cold war platform, although they are working on replacing it). If you've got a lone tank parked in the local market until ISIS fancy a pop at some Kurds JSTARS isn't going to find it for you (Well it'll show up as a blip on the SAR scan, along with a thousand others just like it). Once you've actually got it trundling about blowing holes in the local village, then it'll get spotted and an airstrike package will (hopefully) get designated.

If you want to find stored/camo'd/etc ground assets you need special forces on the ground to call it in.

[n00b]Zippy · 17-Oct-2014, 13:58

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-29660029

EvilGrin · 17-Oct-2014, 15:22

I don't think ISIS got their hands on any of the F-16's the US were in the process of sending (I'm not even sure they've left the States yet). These are more likely some of the 5 SU-25's Iraq bought off the Russians.

Ashen · 17-Oct-2014, 16:52

An f22 pilot is going to have some fun downing those.

EvilGrin · 17-Oct-2014, 16:57

Better info from the Independent. Seems they are captured Syrian jets.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...e-9720471.html

bigdog · 17-Oct-2014, 17:12

If those pictures are accurate then I highly doubt a handful of mig-21s are gonna swing the balance against the USAF.

mr_o · 17-Oct-2014, 17:16

It will some trigger happy yank a reason to let a very expensive missile off the leash. That's about it.

bigdog · 17-Oct-2014, 17:33

For some reason I have Hot Shots Part Deux in my head.

mr_o · 24-Oct-2014, 13:33

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-29751635

A bomb was dropped. A mess was made. A very big mess by the looks of it.

bigdog · 24-Oct-2014, 16:59

Big bada boom

Eja Cool8 · 25-Oct-2014, 01:13

B-1 bomber. Handy tool for this sort of conflict.

EvilGrin · 25-Oct-2014, 01:19

Like they even have radar...

Eja Cool8 · 25-Oct-2014, 01:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvilGrin

Like they even have radar...

The B-1 doesn't rank especially high on the "low-observable list", I was thinking more about its loiter capability and guided bomb capacity.

bigdog · 25-Oct-2014, 15:08

Bring back B52 carpet bombing. Take whatever old shit they've got lying about in the warehouses Stateside and just unleash. Call it a decluttering exercise.

10-Oct-2014, 18:42	#181
EvilGrin my other forum is full Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lancs, UK. Posts: 8,061	While all eyes are on Northern Syria, ISIS are getting closer to Baghdad airport. They are armed with MANPADs too just to make it even more inconvenient. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/isis-wit...-with-manpads/ __________________ Edugeek - Techies in Education!

11-Oct-2014, 12:28	#182
[n00b]Zippy Waterborne Trailer-Trash Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Shropshire Union Canal Posts: 12,784	Are they the male equivalent of a pantie-liner? If so, did you mean "incontinent"? __________________ And now we rise and we are everywhere

11-Oct-2014, 13:08	#183
EvilGrin my other forum is full Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lancs, UK. Posts: 8,061	Here's my definition of inconvenient. This is what happens when you deploy helicopters without ground support (Edit: This is a Mi-35 that was shot down on the 3rd, Edit2: Firing a Chinese FN-6): I imagine it wont be long until they shoot down some of the Apache's the US is planning to deploy either. Does anyone remember Karbala 2003 I wonder? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_attack_on_Karbala __________________ Edugeek - Techies in Education! Last edited by EvilGrin; 11-Oct-2014 at 13:18.

15-Oct-2014, 16:11	#191
EvilGrin my other forum is full Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lancs, UK. Posts: 8,061	An air strike was requested from coalition forces but was denied. I'm guessing ISIS have moved all the kit by now. Don't forget the ISIS commanders are ex-Sadam era senior military too. Plus the Iraq army is a demoralised mess without any solid leadership. It's not surprising or new that they ran. __________________ Edugeek - Techies in Education! Last edited by EvilGrin; 15-Oct-2014 at 16:13.

15-Oct-2014, 18:29	#193
EvilGrin my other forum is full Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lancs, UK. Posts: 8,061	It's fairly easy to hide a tank from inquisitive aircraft. __________________ Edugeek - Techies in Education!

14-Oct-2014, 21:52	#188
Nomad i fear no midget Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 10,530	dutch happy to help, expect more will pop over to lend a hand now and they have a bit of experience with heavy weaponry from guns to rocket launchers

15-Oct-2014, 18:17	#192
Nomad i fear no midget Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 10,530	a guerilla in a crowd is hard to spot. give a beardy a tank and you can pick him out from a mile away. get to the choppa!!!

16-Oct-2014, 08:57	#195
EvilGrin my other forum is full Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lancs, UK. Posts: 8,061	E-8's are only any good at finding tanks actually conducting combat operations (i.e. moving) in a recognisable formation (remember this is a cold war platform, although they are working on replacing it). If you've got a lone tank parked in the local market until ISIS fancy a pop at some Kurds JSTARS isn't going to find it for you (Well it'll show up as a blip on the SAR scan, along with a thousand others just like it). Once you've actually got it trundling about blowing holes in the local village, then it'll get spotted and an airstrike package will (hopefully) get designated. If you want to find stored/camo'd/etc ground assets you need special forces on the ground to call it in. __________________ Edugeek - Techies in Education! Last edited by EvilGrin; 16-Oct-2014 at 08:59.

17-Oct-2014, 13:58	#196
[n00b]Zippy Waterborne Trailer-Trash Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Shropshire Union Canal Posts: 12,784	http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-29660029 __________________ And now we rise and we are everywhere

17-Oct-2014, 15:22	#197
EvilGrin my other forum is full Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lancs, UK. Posts: 8,061	I don't think ISIS got their hands on any of the F-16's the US were in the process of sending (I'm not even sure they've left the States yet). These are more likely some of the 5 SU-25's Iraq bought off the Russians. __________________ Edugeek - Techies in Education!

17-Oct-2014, 16:57	#199
EvilGrin my other forum is full Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lancs, UK. Posts: 8,061	Better info from the Independent. Seems they are captured Syrian jets. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...e-9720471.html __________________ Edugeek - Techies in Education!

17-Oct-2014, 17:12	#200
bigdog forum hax Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 542	If those pictures are accurate then I highly doubt a handful of mig-21s are gonna swing the balance against the USAF. __________________ Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far.

17-Oct-2014, 17:16	#201
mr_o post count reset at 9999 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 9,962	It will some trigger happy yank a reason to let a very expensive missile off the leash. That's about it.

17-Oct-2014, 17:33	#202
bigdog forum hax Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 542	For some reason I have Hot Shots Part Deux in my head. __________________ Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far.

24-Oct-2014, 13:33	#203
mr_o post count reset at 9999 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 9,962	http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-29751635 A bomb was dropped. A mess was made. A very big mess by the looks of it.

24-Oct-2014, 16:59	#204
bigdog forum hax Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 542	Big bada boom __________________ Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far.

25-Oct-2014, 01:13	#205
Eja Cool8 Enema of the people Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 12,714	B-1 bomber. Handy tool for this sort of conflict. __________________ "A friend of mine described her disgust as two Blackwater mercs, shortly after introducing themselves, proposed a two-on-one sex act that involved one of the men ejaculating on the other." Steve Fainaru: "Big Boy Rules" "Every man and woman should play the noblest games and be of another mind from what they are at present." Plato

25-Oct-2014, 01:19	#206
EvilGrin my other forum is full Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lancs, UK. Posts: 8,061	Like they even have radar... __________________ Edugeek - Techies in Education!

25-Oct-2014, 15:08	#208
bigdog forum hax Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 542	Bring back B52 carpet bombing. Take whatever old shit they've got lying about in the warehouses Stateside and just unleash. Call it a decluttering exercise. __________________ Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far.