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Old 10-Jun-2008, 14:50   #1
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Breaking Into a home

Question, reguarding the law, if someone breaks into my flat am i right in thinking i can use reasonable force to stop them?

you see after me and my gf having had troubles with her losing her job we've struggled a bit to pay bills however we are still getting the majority of them paid, today her sisters boyfriend has decided that on saturday he is removing me from our flat by force if i am not already out, so i'm going to have a bunch of friends round to handle him if he does force his way in, so as far as the laws concerned i'm fairly sure i'm allowed to use reasonable force if someone enters my home without permission or breaks there way in.
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Old 10-Jun-2008, 14:52   #2
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I'm pretty sure you have to prove intent and furthermore he does actually have to force entry. Why does he feel the need to eject you from your home btw? Dislikes hippies?
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just make sure you hit him with a household object, not a baseball bat and you'll be fine
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Well the door will be double bolted and locked at all times from now on so if he does force entry it'll be pretty evident, i also have a text message off him threatening to remove me from the flat and the second i hear the door being kicked or banged i will phone the police.

As for why he is doing this, he's adamant that my gf is not happy and wants rid of me that everyone in the family hates me. Basically we are struggling to pay the bills and she asked her parents for an extra £50 which we do not even need towards rent. they thought we wanted £300 because i'm not going to pay the rent which is untrue and a misunderstanding but he's adamant he's going to remove me even if police are here.
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Ditch her tbh
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we both love one another i will not run away from our relationship
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just make sure you hit him with a household object, not a baseball bat and you'll be fine
i was thinking my wooden training swords however if there are a few of my mates round here won't need them.
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Yeah... "it's them or me love"....
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Just be sure to call your mates off once he has been "escorted from the premises" otherwise he has grounds for assault.
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Is it true that you should hit someone as hard as you can on the basis that "Officer, I simply didn't know my own strength" or is that opening a world of hurt?
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only if you say that after hitting the officer
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i think just pailing the shit out of him should suffice if he comes back for more gradually knocking him out would have to suffice then getting the police to arrest his ass for attempting to break and enter.
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Certainly don't kill him and take the resultant parts to Greggs.
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has your GF not told him/them to fuck off?
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Yes, it does sound like something that could be settled with a bit of in-house discussion.
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there will not be any discussion between me and him again, he had no right to but into our problems she shouldn't even have asked her mom and dad for the £50. she is trying to sort it out now but if it does not get sorted out there will be hell to pay. I even told him that i'd get the police involved to which he said "i'll phone them myself and they'll watch while i remove you" so you can see what the situation is like.
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there will not be any discussion between me and him again, he had no right to but into our problems
Loss of pride for a while is a small price to pay for an easy life dude.
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Loss of pride for a while is a small price to pay for an easy life dude.
It's not about pride I'm not going to talk to him atleast untill I get an appology. when his girlfriend needed money when they were struggling we happily lent it them and didn't even say we needed it back till my gf lost her job. However my gf asked her mom and dad not even him or her sister for help and he gets involved threatens to assault me remove me from the flat i'm paying rent on and smash up all my shit.
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Best advice I’ve ever heard was from a copper and that was if you ever find someone in your house is to beat the crap out of them take them up the stairs then push them down them, claim you startled them and they fell. I know you said flat but you could say he fled upon seeing you and your mates and fell down the stairwell
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Hording shit is a clear health and safety concern.
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I'm not going to talk to him atleast untill I get an appology.


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Loss of pride for a while is a small price to pay for an easy life dude.

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i tried talking to him earlier when i got his abusive text but he was sure he's going to remove me and wasn't listening to anything i had to say, talking is not an option now, my gfs trying to sort thiungs out with her family but i'm just thinking ahead for saturday.
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I've got an idea, why don't you mysteriously disappear on Saturday. That way you won't have to deal with moron.
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I've got an idea, why don't you mysteriously disappear on Saturday. That way you won't have to deal with moron.
because if he does manage to force his way into the flat i have well over £2,000 worth of stuff he can smash up which he is threatening to do.
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Just give the cunt a good kicking then give your missus a good hiding for having such a fucking cunting shite family.

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That bit really made me go "aww...."

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Loss of pride for a while is a small price to pay for an easy life dude.
Listen to the wise man, he is right.

As an aside you could talk to your community police officer about it, they will make a note of the threat and that could help later if you do need to ring them.
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Well that's what insurance is for, and he'd get banged up as you know who it is.
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If the guy kicks your door in, beat the living shit out of him and call it self defence. Afterall, he was breaking into your home, for reasons you believe are violent. As long as you dont kill him or put him in a coma, you should be pretty much ok. If not, at least your shit is safe.
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