SPOILERS - Star Wars 7 Discussion - WITH SPOILERS

burundi · 19-Dec-2015, 19:29

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blurr · 19-Dec-2015, 22:17

So Rey is Luke Skywalker's daughter?

Blunteh · 19-Dec-2015, 22:57

I figured she had to be as the island was in her mind without her realising, suggesting a deep link to Luke.

burundi · 19-Dec-2015, 23:02

That's what I was thinking but I didn't get a suggestion of it.

As good as it was, it did feel like a retread of A New Hope.

Randell · 19-Dec-2015, 23:57

Star wars has always been about the Skywalkers. Growing up on a desert planet, finding her force powers, being drawn by Anakins lightsaber..she has to be Lukes daughter.

Before the film began I thought Rey and Kylo might be twins. But one being a Solo and one being a Skywalker makes sense as well.

I hadnt read or reseaerched any spoilers before the film came out, so when I look back on them now, some of the speculation is way off, but some is spot on.

devs · 20-Dec-2015, 00:34

If Rey was Lukes, then who is the partner? Surely Solo would have said something to her if she was his?!?!

Im with Burundi on the thinking of it was like New Hope. Destroy a bigger Death star storyline.

Hamspoons · 20-Dec-2015, 01:09

I wouldn't mind her parents being characters we don't know, since it's a new story. It doesn't necessarily need to be all Skywalkers, get in some new players. Jedi's aren't supposed to have families are they? Also she was old enough to know her parents, but surprised to learn Luke Skywalker isn't a myth.

As for Han Solo, it is sad but does follow the Star Wars line of killing off fathers and father figures (seriously, don't take anyone under your wing in that universe). Wonder if that was part of convincing Harrison Ford to come back. He's been wanting to kill him off since Empire. He's 73 and notoriously grumpy but has been much more engaged for the past year on the promotion circuit. Might have been easier for them to say "Come on Harrison, just put on the smiles and play along for a year, then you're done. You won't have to do it anymore". Might have been a bit harder to do if it was "Urgh, 8 more years of this shit".

Main disappointment though is that he's always been the series MVP. Charismatic, funny, everyone loves him. Hopefully the new cast can reach those same levels.

Also, nice cameo has been revealed. Turns out Daniel Craig was the stormtrooper that Rey uses the force on

Orange · 20-Dec-2015, 03:12

I thought it was amazing, but I was looking forward to Fisher, Hamil and Ford on screen together. Can't really argue, the Hans death scene was great.

Blunteh · 20-Dec-2015, 09:25

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Originally Posted by Spazwankle

Also, nice cameo has been revealed. Turns out Daniel Craig was the stormtrooper that Rey uses the force on

Simon Pegg's another cameo, the fat headed fella that Finn leaves with to get to the outer rim.

I thought is was amazing too... I nearly popped with tingly excitement when the x-wings came storming in over the lake ! I was 10 years old again

Also had to bite my lip to hold back a tear at the final scene.

Randell · 20-Dec-2015, 10:58

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Originally Posted by Blunteh

Simon Pegg's another cameo, the fat headed fella that Finn leaves with to get to the outer rim.

I thought is was amazing too... I nearly popped with tingly excitement when the x-wings came storming in over the lake ! I was 10 years old again

Also had to bite my lip to hold back a tear at the final scene.

Pegg is the alien on Jakku that Rey trades scrap with for food.

Randell · 20-Dec-2015, 11:03

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Originally Posted by devs

If Rey was Lukes, then who is the partner? Surely Solo would have said something to her if she was his?!?!

Im with Burundi on the thinking of it was like New Hope. Destroy a bigger Death star storyline.

She was left on Jakku when she was young, we don't how long Han had been estranged from Leia. There is no reason to assume Han would recognise her. At this point in the story why do we need to know who the mother is?

Hamspoons · 20-Dec-2015, 12:12

I dunno, if she is Luke's or Han's or Leia's and they were trying to hide her, I can't see those characters abandoning their child on a desert planet with someone she has to pay to eat. No royal or happy family adoption for this one! Life of solitude for you.

Hope we haven't seen the last of the Raid actors either. Bit disappointed they only got a couple of lines. Fingers crossed they get to show off some of their martial arts skillz in later ones.

Ashen · 20-Dec-2015, 13:37

God the scene with the x-wings swooping into safe Han on Maz's planet made my geek meter explode had a massive grin on my face. The final scene made it for me the look on Luke's face with the realization his time had come again to return to the galaxy at large, pure devastation etched on his face and the look of hope and necessity from Rey.

Thank fuck they did not kill off any the bad guys found the relationship, between Hux and Kylo to be interesting and hope they expand on it further.

Blunteh · 20-Dec-2015, 15:16

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Originally Posted by Randell

Pegg is the alien on Jakku that Rey trades scrap with for food.

Yeah just found out I was wrong from a friend... The scrap dealer is also apparently the person holding Rey's hand in her flashback (where her family left). So I'm told anyway

Scorpius · 20-Dec-2015, 15:28

i think she is the daughter of obi wan.

blurr · 20-Dec-2015, 15:35

I thoroughly enjoyed the film, but there were two niggly things...

Every time General Hux came on screen I couldn't help think of Harry Potter. In my opinion he was somewhat miscast.

Also Snoke looked like he had just came from the set of LOTR or The Hobbit.

Blunteh · 20-Dec-2015, 19:15

Agreed on Snoke...

Xivo · 20-Dec-2015, 22:42

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Originally Posted by Scorpius

i think she is the daughter of obi wan.

I'm guessing that's a troll post

?
With Obi being dead and all.

devs · 20-Dec-2015, 23:23

Obi Wan learnt about Eternal life or something didnt he? Attack of Clones, Yoda taught him. He impregnates someone from his ghostly body form.

Ashen · 20-Dec-2015, 23:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xivo

I'm guessing that's a troll post

?
With Obi being dead and all.

Actually its quite a popular idea, you can hear both versions of obi wan talk to her in her flash back. She could be a grandchild of his.

Xivo · 21-Dec-2015, 00:28

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Originally Posted by Ashen

Actually its quite a popular idea, you can hear both versions of obi wan talk to her in her flash back. She could be a grandchild of his.

Grandchild is plausible yes, but not his daughter

I still think she's Lukes.

ReichSteadyCrew · 21-Dec-2015, 09:39

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Originally Posted by blurr

Also Snoke looked like he had just came from the set of LOTR or The Hobbit.

Because he was played by Andy Serkis or just looked like one of the LOTR/Hobbit characters? Serious question btw.

[RaG]Ethel · 21-Dec-2015, 09:47

I bet he's like 3foot 6 when we meet him too

</thegreatoz>

Blunteh · 21-Dec-2015, 13:41

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Originally Posted by ReichSteadyCrew

Because he was played by Andy Serkis or just looked like one of the LOTR/Hobbit characters? Serious question btw.

For me the face was very Gollum. But then so are a few Orcs in the LOTR series, like the technology used leads to a certain look.

Scorpius · 21-Dec-2015, 21:06

Looking back now i enjoyed it but at the time...not so. i felt it was just a rehash of "A new hope"
desert character,check,
droid lost in desert on a secret mission..check
daring escape from said desert planet..check
death star mk 3..check..blown up by x-wing through a trench,..check.
old wise character bites it check.
character realises they are force sensitive ..check

Randell · 21-Dec-2015, 21:20

Yeah but that's all done with such style and verve I don't care. I even enjoy that its a rehash of ANH for a new generation.

Orange · 21-Dec-2015, 22:18

Wot Randall said.

Ashen · 21-Dec-2015, 22:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randell

Yeah but that's all done with such style and verve I don't care. I even enjoy that its a rehash of ANH for a new generation.

Feel the same

Dave · 22-Dec-2015, 01:13

Quality film 10/10 for me, there was bits where you think youve seen this before.

But it didnt take anything from the film at all, kept you watching from beginning to end.

blurr · 22-Dec-2015, 20:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReichSteadyCrew

Because he was played by Andy Serkis or just looked like one of the LOTR/Hobbit characters? Serious question btw.

Pretty much what Blunteh pointed out. The whole CGI and facial features looked very LOTR/Hobbit.

19-Dec-2015, 19:29	#1
burundi WARNING: May contain nuts Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Prestonia Posts: 11,527	SPOILERS - Star Wars 7 Discussion - WITH SPOILERS This is the thread for discussion of the new Star Wars film Spoilers are welcome in here so don't read this thread unless you've already seen the film! Carry on. __________________ I arose gigantic and black, I howled at the night and the night howled back.

19-Dec-2015, 23:02	#4
burundi WARNING: May contain nuts Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Prestonia Posts: 11,527	That's what I was thinking but I didn't get a suggestion of it. As good as it was, it did feel like a retread of A New Hope. __________________ I arose gigantic and black, I howled at the night and the night howled back.

20-Dec-2015, 00:34	#6
devs Devtard Strikes Again Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Purley Tournaments Won: 1 Posts: 9,793	If Rey was Lukes, then who is the partner? Surely Solo would have said something to her if she was his?!?! Im with Burundi on the thinking of it was like New Hope. Destroy a bigger Death star storyline. __________________ New Trend HERE

20-Dec-2015, 01:09	#7
Hamspoons I love lamp Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,123	I wouldn't mind her parents being characters we don't know, since it's a new story. It doesn't necessarily need to be all Skywalkers, get in some new players. Jedi's aren't supposed to have families are they? Also she was old enough to know her parents, but surprised to learn Luke Skywalker isn't a myth. As for Han Solo, it is sad but does follow the Star Wars line of killing off fathers and father figures (seriously, don't take anyone under your wing in that universe). Wonder if that was part of convincing Harrison Ford to come back. He's been wanting to kill him off since Empire. He's 73 and notoriously grumpy but has been much more engaged for the past year on the promotion circuit. Might have been easier for them to say "Come on Harrison, just put on the smiles and play along for a year, then you're done. You won't have to do it anymore". Might have been a bit harder to do if it was "Urgh, 8 more years of this shit". Main disappointment though is that he's always been the series MVP. Charismatic, funny, everyone loves him. Hopefully the new cast can reach those same levels. Also, nice cameo has been revealed. Turns out Daniel Craig was the stormtrooper that Rey uses the force on __________________ "You keep a horse in your basement?" Last edited by Hamspoons; 20-Dec-2015 at 01:14.

20-Dec-2015, 12:12	#12
Hamspoons I love lamp Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,123	I dunno, if she is Luke's or Han's or Leia's and they were trying to hide her, I can't see those characters abandoning their child on a desert planet with someone she has to pay to eat. No royal or happy family adoption for this one! Life of solitude for you. Hope we haven't seen the last of the Raid actors either. Bit disappointed they only got a couple of lines. Fingers crossed they get to show off some of their martial arts skillz in later ones. __________________ "You keep a horse in your basement?"

19-Dec-2015, 22:17	#2
blurr fashion victim Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 18,986	So Rey is Luke Skywalker's daughter?

19-Dec-2015, 22:57	#3
Blunteh Return of the Colander Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 8,999	I figured she had to be as the island was in her mind without her realising, suggesting a deep link to Luke.

19-Dec-2015, 23:57	#5
Randell my post count gets me dates Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 4,076	Star wars has always been about the Skywalkers. Growing up on a desert planet, finding her force powers, being drawn by Anakins lightsaber..she has to be Lukes daughter. Before the film began I thought Rey and Kylo might be twins. But one being a Solo and one being a Skywalker makes sense as well. I hadnt read or reseaerched any spoilers before the film came out, so when I look back on them now, some of the speculation is way off, but some is spot on.

20-Dec-2015, 03:12	#8
Orange please find me real friends Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 12,029	I thought it was amazing, but I was looking forward to Fisher, Hamil and Ford on screen together. Can't really argue, the Hans death scene was great.

20-Dec-2015, 15:28	#15
Scorpius Spilling Campion 2008 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Preston Posts: 4,561	i think she is the daughter of obi wan. __________________ “If cats looked like frogs we'd realize what nasty, cruel little bastards they are. Style. That's what people remember.” Sir Terry P R.I.P 12/03/2015

20-Dec-2015, 15:35	#16
blurr fashion victim Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 18,986	I thoroughly enjoyed the film, but there were two niggly things... Every time General Hux came on screen I couldn't help think of Harry Potter. In my opinion he was somewhat miscast. Also Snoke looked like he had just came from the set of LOTR or The Hobbit.

20-Dec-2015, 19:15	#17
Blunteh Return of the Colander Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 8,999	Agreed on Snoke...

20-Dec-2015, 23:23	#19
devs Devtard Strikes Again Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Purley Tournaments Won: 1 Posts: 9,793	Obi Wan learnt about Eternal life or something didnt he? Attack of Clones, Yoda taught him. He impregnates someone from his ghostly body form. __________________ New Trend HERE

21-Dec-2015, 09:47	#23
[RaG]Ethel Alfa Male Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Northumberland Posts: 13,686	I bet he's like 3foot 6 when we meet him too </thegreatoz> __________________ girls girls girls

21-Dec-2015, 21:06	#25
Scorpius Spilling Campion 2008 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Preston Posts: 4,561	Looking back now i enjoyed it but at the time...not so. i felt it was just a rehash of "A new hope" desert character,check, droid lost in desert on a secret mission..check daring escape from said desert planet..check death star mk 3..check..blown up by x-wing through a trench,..check. old wise character bites it check. character realises they are force sensitive ..check __________________ “If cats looked like frogs we'd realize what nasty, cruel little bastards they are. Style. That's what people remember.” Sir Terry P R.I.P 12/03/2015

21-Dec-2015, 21:20	#26
Randell my post count gets me dates Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 4,076	Yeah but that's all done with such style and verve I don't care. I even enjoy that its a rehash of ANH for a new generation.

21-Dec-2015, 22:18	#27
Orange please find me real friends Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 12,029	Wot Randall said.

22-Dec-2015, 01:13	#29
Dave Yea, theres a mod for that Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Behind the Curve Posts: 5,896	Quality film 10/10 for me, there was bits where you think youve seen this before. But it didnt take anything from the film at all, kept you watching from beginning to end. __________________ Get £5 off at BULK POWDERS™ with referral code DW41855