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Old 04-Jul-2015, 15:36   #31
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I'm thinking that if Greece starts defaulting on its debts, Europe will start giving Cameron anything he asks for to keep us in and happy. You can already see European stances on the UK requests softening.
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I do wonder how this on-going migrant crisis is going to affect this referendum; if Cameron doesn't accept more migrants he's going to struggle to renegotiate anything with his EU partners. Conversely, if more migrants are accepted, there's almost certainly going to be a rise in the 'Out' vote.

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I just read Matt Parris's column on this, his horribly Machiavellian observation was that the last week may have actually helped him:

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I will also say that the last couple of days has revealed a couple of old Facebook friends are (not-so-)closet far right types, which is nice.
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That's also the prevailing view of the people of Westminster according to a few of my mates that work there. I can't help but think that's incredibly naiive - even with the recent announcement by Cameron on Monday we're still seen by the key EU powers as shirking it and always will be given our Schengen-free fortuitousness.

Another equally Machiavellian view that's currently out there is that we're taking (in our 20,000) the women, the children, the old and infirm - being those left behind at the refugee camps - whereas those benevolent Germans are taking all the economically productive young lads that will not only contribute to their economy but also fix their horrendous demographic problems they have going for them.

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Another equally Machiavellian view that's currently out there is that we're taking (in our 20,000) the women, the children, the old and infirm - being those left behind at the refugee camps - whereas those benevolent Germans are taking all the economically productive young lads that will not only contribute to their economy but also fix their horrendous demographic problems they have going for them.
hahahaha - yes thats just what happens, like the Turkish communities in Germany, the Algerians in France etc
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Don't think that's accurate. Refugees are generally quite expensive, with much lower rates of labour participation, except for the relatively few highly trained skilled. The €6bn which Germany just released will only cover some of the initial living costs. It will cost far more long term.
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For what it's worth I agree with you. The point being made by that view is, however, that those that have made the trip across the EU are likely to be more productive (notwithstanding their participation vis a vis the indigenous population) than those in the refugee centres. I.e. if you have to take someone..
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For what it's worth I agree with you. The point being made by that view is, however, that those that have made the trip across the EU are likely to be more productive (notwithstanding their participation vis a vis the indigenous population) than those in the refugee centres. I.e. if you have to take someone..
Those that have made it onto a train for the final leg across europe have shown much more initiative than those who merely trekked across the middle east, up through africa and survived a boat trip across the med which comes with a substantial risk of drowning.

Interesting logic: If you're going to force me to be altruistic, I'm going to be altruistic in a way that benefits me most!
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I'd say it's as likely to demonstrate who had enough money to get a boat somewhere useful, and who went to Greece or Turkey.

Either way, complete nonsense.
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I think it shows a disrespect for legal processes and a propensity for extreme risky and borderline Darwin award behaviours. We have people with these traits already, we even build large concrete dorms for them

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It's looking like Poland will say Nie to Cameron's plans for Europe, so where does that leave him? I can't help but feel that he has been playing the long con all the time, knowing full well that Europe would never agree to his plans and thus force him to "reluctantly" pull us out of Europe.
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Cameron is far from clever enough to have foreseen the refugee influx, the hardening of nationalist eastern regimes and the rise of right wing parties over the western EU.
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I doubt Cameron wants us out of the EU. There are of course elements within his party that he must appease but I don't think he wants to be the prime minister that turns us into a hugely less attractive country for foreign investment.
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It's looking like Poland will say Nie to Cameron's plans for Europe, so where does that leave him? I can't help but feel that he has been playing the long con all the time, knowing full well that Europe would never agree to his plans and thus force him to "reluctantly" pull us out of Europe.
The mood music from both Brussels and the U.K. seems to be that Cameron's going to get concessions on migrant benefits out of this and will return triumphant to London in late Feb to campaign hard to stay in. Will confess to being quite surprised as I had expected Europe to give him the big FO.
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That certainty was built on sand it appears. As soon as Germany turns noone else is going to feel bad about it.
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I think we should start a new referendum poll once we receive the final details of Cameron's deal with the EU, as at the moment it looks like what he's come away with is entirely worthless.
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I think we should start a new referendum poll once we receive the final details of Cameron's deal with the EU, as at the moment it looks like what he's come away with is entirely worthless.
Did you expect anything else?
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I expected more when the process began but for the last couple of months (particularly since the letter to Tusk) it's been clear that what's going to come back will be of limited worth.
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I felt the opposite, I thought Tusk and Cameron were stage managing the process to emphasise just how hard won the deal had been (especially once No 10 starting raising expectations, which seemed needless).
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I thought one of the main things he was asking for was a change in the fisheries policy? It's not even mentioned.
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I felt the opposite, I thought Tusk and Cameron were stage managing the process to emphasise just how hard won the deal had been (especially once No 10 starting raising expectations, which seemed needless).
Yeah I imagine that's likely but over the last few years he made demands (internally) that are completely at odds with what has come back. Naive or otherwise, that has to hurt him, whether or not it's been stage managed, although we'll only start to see this in a couple of weeks when those ministers firmly in the Leave camp are allowed to express themselves. I also think holding the referendum in June is also slightly odd for the 'Remain' campaign considering it's likely to coincide with better weather that will enable a great number of people to make the journey through Europe.

The next few months will be interesting nonetheless.

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I think ultimately it'll be fine, the difference with the 90s is that Eurosceptic Tories actually have something to lose being dicks (so no party split), and everyone will stare over the cliff and step back prior to the referendum. Expecting sparks along the way (as long as Corbyn has the good grace not to distract them with a dreadful electoral performance come May!).
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I don't know, 6 months ago I couldn't ever see the leave vote winning because of the pure inertia to change (like jockland). Now though I think we are one crisis / incident away from it becoming a reality.
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I don't know, 6 months ago I couldn't ever see the leave vote winning because of the pure inertia to change (like jockland). Now though I think we are one crisis / incident away from it becoming a reality.
I disagree , despite the frothing up in the press and in the commons over some issues, I just can't see the majority voting to leave.
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I genuinely don't know where to call it - and it's hard to read too much into the polling data post the 2015 election cockup. I think the fear element will play a huge part in the Remain campaign and will be very influential and that's where I still think it'll end up; that being said, if the migrant crisis continues to escalate during 2016 I can see that playing a huge part.

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The migrant crisis is somewhat of a back drop from the UKs perspective and I can't see the indirect effects of that mess up hitting for a couple years (thank god we are an island)

I'm think more a terror attack, forced quotas or extra costs for Turkey, Germany forcing Greece adrift, Turkey blackmailing its way to the membership table etc
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The Go camp is also pretty fragmented at the moment and really needs to coalesce around a single entity. Having 3 or 4 campaign groups is a bad idea.
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