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Old 21-Aug-2017, 09:57   #121
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Another epic, every episode has been a barnstormer this season. Uncle B coming out of the blue was a bit of a surprise too far for me, but fuck it, they're bringing dragons back to life. Assume Uncle B is alive and well despite hints to the contrary?
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Yeah. That was good. Dragon / Thoros :'(
Loved the beyond the wall stuff, the scene between Jorah and Jon / Thoros , very nicely done. Showing that if you kill a wight you kill their dead.

(sidenote how have I just realised Thoros of Myr is Dennis Pennis!?! )

I wasn't entirely convinced by the Sansa and Arya scenes , it'll depend on where this goes.

Being totally hyper critical - the plan on taking a zombie to kings landing is daft. Cersei as a character wont and will not give a literal fuck until everyone else dead and theres an army of wights camped outside the Red Keep. Also having what will appear to be literally every major force barring the Dead in Westeros in the same place next episode?
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The whole Sansa/Arya thing is a ruse, I bet they're playing LF and he'll wind up dead in the next episode.
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Being totally hyper critical - the plan on taking a zombie to kings landing is daft. Cersei as a character wont and will not give a literal fuck until everyone else dead and theres an army of wights camped outside the Red Keep. Also having what will appear to be literally every major force barring the Dead in Westeros in the same place next episode?
Its daft because I'm going to speculate that its precisely what enables the army of the dead to breach the wall
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Undead dragon fire it's what I'm betting on collapsing the wall. Anyway we've seen wights south of the wall.
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One thing where the writers have lost it and this season especially so is the complete lack of respect for time and distance.
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It almost feels like most of this stuff should have been happening whilst Ayra was still in training montages but the story hadn't been written yet at that point

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Have we though? we've seen wights on the wall and one assumes the physical barrier has some reason for existing. One assumes reading a couple of spoilers that the prophecy of the 3 headed dragon is a bit ruined now too.

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I'm not getting to bothered about the time anymore. It was frustrating initially but accepting the cost of producing the show as well as the desire to bring it to a close I'm enjoying the story and the ride.
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I think that's it, I would just suspend disbelief (zombie dragons) and enjoy it for what it is.
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Yes, in Castle Black, which is on the south side of the wall!
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Was totally waiting for them to "deadify" a dragon, didn't think it would be so soon, I thought it would've been during the finale, does that mean it's now gonna attack it's siblings cos that would just be...

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Thought it was utterly ridiculous in places. Found it really annoying when they sacrifice the gritty realism for absurd plot devices. Just makes me feel like its lord of the rings with swearing.
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How the fuck did they attached those fucking huge chains to that underwater dragon ?
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Where do they get the ice weapons from?

Ice wrought chains is the current theory, also as its apparently a fresh water lake (they have problems with salt water apparently) just slows wights down rather than destroying them.

My current read is the Night King WANTS that wight down south for some reason.
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Sounds like ice bollox to me.

You don't forge a chain from ice, then swim down to a sunken dragon, lift the dragon up , put the chain under the dragon and return to the ice king with a smile and a thumbs up.

There seemed to be a big fear in drowning in a frozen lake earlier.
But apparently, there's a least one super strong tom daly amongst them.
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There seemed to be a big fear in drowning in a frozen lake earlier.
But apparently, there's a least one super strong tom daly amounts them.
Not fear of drowning , just not much a dead man can do in freezing water .
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because if it bites anyone he'll have two wights down south... next thing you know, they've got your job
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Sounds like ice bollox to me.

You don't forge a chain from ice, then swim down to a sunken dragon, lift the dragon up , put the chain under the dragon and return to the ice king with a smile and a thumbs up.

There seemed to be a big fear in drowning in a frozen lake earlier.
But apparently, there's a least one super strong tom daly amongst them.
Re chains,Dont they have undead Giants and the giants mammoths? weren't they controlled by said large chains?
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Who's to say it wasn't a week later, or that they're to help scale or damage the wall? As above, this is a problem in a scene where an ice man made by fairies resurrects a dragon he killed with an icicle?
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Who's to say it wasn't a week later, or that they're to help scale or damage the wall? As above, this is a problem in a scene where an ice man made by fairies resurrects a dragon he killed with an icicle?
Laziest justification ever for sloppy writing and I hate it when it gets trotted out. The world as created needs to stay within its own rules else immersion is broken. Hence why I get pissed off about the teleporting all over Westoros and FTL Ravens that has happened all this season
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The plot does seems much more contrived this season probably because of the pacing with characters making illogical decisions just to advance the plot to a finish on a climax in a set piece. What made the series so good initially was that it tried to avoid the usual tropes and cliches of traditional fantasy and I think it's lost some of that originality because it just feels much more manufactured. It's still hugely entertaining but I'm a bit disappointed particularly with the last episode.
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Laziest justification ever for sloppy writing and I hate it when it gets trotted out. The world as created needs to stay within its own rules else immersion is broken. Hence why I get pissed off about the teleporting all over Westoros and FTL Ravens that has happened all this season
Personal opinions and all that, but I find the immersion generally gets broken if I let it get broken.
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