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Old 05-Jan-2018, 13:36   #1351
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Hes clearly terrified!
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Trash reading for those that already despise him. Ignored by (or fake news to) those that think he's the greatest President since Andrew Jackson.

It'll be an interesting news cycle for the weekend.
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The ever diminishing number that think he’s the greatest President since Jackson. Can confirm it’s a page turner though.
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I read the excerpt that was posted yesterday in this thread, seemed ok.
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I clearly would rather material that was published was true, but the idea that Trump would sue someone else for false or baseless statements is just delicious
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And hilariously more than provides enough extra sale revenue to cover any legal response costs on behalf of the publisher.
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Trash reading for those that already despise him. Ignored by (or fake news to) those that think he's the greatest President since Andrew Jackson.

It'll be an interesting news cycle for the weekend.
I think its never going to be impact on his supporters , its whether something will knock trumps own fragile mental state out of kilter. I always think you can generally tell trumps been hit in the gut when he starts yelling "Make America Great Again" on twitter.
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There’ll clearly be a percentage of the electorate who’ll be unaffected by this, but it’s a lot less than 50.1%, and it’s almost certainly less than 37% in my view. But this line’s going to get trotted out a lot by the Republican crowd who can’t quite bring themselves to support Trump but can’t quite bear conceding that something positive may have happened for Democrats.
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I think its never going to be impact on his supporters
I don't think that group is as homogeneous or inflexible as it's given credit for. Alabama should have demonstrated that. It's not all The_Donald.
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This is also true, given the economy isnt shit without a steady stream of "trumps mental" he might actually have some popularity.
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Right, his approval ratings are shit and the economy’s great! Imagine what it’s going to look like if the inevitable recession happens pre-2020?
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True but somewhat extreme; even the Donald can't win with a paedo.
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Every president owns success, but you can spread any boasting too thin for an audience. Claiming credit for no commercial aviation deaths in 2017 is a decent example. People just get inured to it.
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In Alabama.
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True but somewhat extreme; even the Donald can't win with a paedo.
But hang on, you've just claimed that his supporters will maintain the party line regardless, which was that Moore was entirely innocent. How are "they" flexible on Trump's support of Moore in Alabama but inflexible on Trump's deportment elsewhere?
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Because no one likes a paedo. Look at Milo's fall from grace.
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Only rabid man babies ever liked Milo
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Yeah seriously what grace?

Trump - this reminds me of your faith in the boisterous confidence of the Conservatives before the snap GE. I think you weight such confidence far too heavily against the diffuse reality of the electorate. Especially as it applies to one trick circus acts like Trump.
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I'll take that one but to be fair to me I don't think I'm alone in not expecting a hung parliament in the last GE!
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I'll happily concede in the other direction given any evidence that Trump's support has grown or even remained consistent - other than Trump and Fox saying so.
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Quite the opposite even. 48% approval rating for Trump from participants in the special election, House Republicans at an unprecedentedly bad level. Just needs 26 seats to take the House and then he’s even more fucked. But y’know, MaGa and all that shit.
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And to go back to that paedo, Trump backed him wholeheartedly.
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And attacked Moore's accusers with help from his Press Secretary.

But speaking of lies.



Brilliant. Because it's not like he was sat on a sofa in the West Wing interviewing people for five months or anything. Nah, never there. No permission. MAGAagagagaga.
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Quite possible he doesn’t remember based on reports in the book...
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I'll happily concede in the other direction given any evidence that Trump's support has grown or even remained consistent - other than Trump and Fox saying so.
Nah in the round I agree with you as I'm genuinely not trying to say there will be no shift whatsoever. The support can of course diminish outside his nutty base and evidence points to it doing so as you rightly say; however, ignoring his perpetual rallies at the moment he's not campaigning. To use the last GE as an example Corbyn was miles behind in opinion polling before the campaign properly started and then Labour nailed it. It's important to remember that Trump beat a number of decent candidates in the republican primaries. Perhaps the public won't vote stupid twice.
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He’s always campaigning.
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In 3 years time, the level of outrage fatigue is likely to work in his favour
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