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Old 26-Apr-2017, 12:04   #31
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Old 26-Apr-2017, 12:15   #32
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ah come on you know its not unreasonable to provide an example of were automation is actually receding. Particularly when the other side of the debate offers little than "all our jerbs are about to be done by robots - panic!"

I see super automation like fusion power, always 15 years away, sounding plausibly inevitable but apparently very very very very hard.
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I don't think anyone is saying robots other than you. Automation is not as simple as the replacement of manual labour with a robot. It's more complex, and especially in growth in traditionally manual sectors that have been disrupted by digital such as real estate, holidays, car buying, taxis and the like. The customer has ever increasing direct methods of interfacing with resources or skills and that means less admin. But anyway, you're where you are with it and you're welcome to it.
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ah come on you know its not unreasonable to provide an example of were automation is actually receding. Particularly when the other side of the debate offers little than "all our jerbs are about to be done by robots - panic!"

I see super automation like fusion power, always 15 years away, sounding plausibly inevitable but apparently very very very very hard.
Firstly, I'm.l not an expert on automation. I do however work in an industry where we're already seeing the impact of it on our day jobs. I think the meaning of "automation" is getting lost amongst the talk of Skynets, lasors and those robots that build cars in factories.

As nersh says it's not just "robuts" that fall under this bracket, its also sophisticated software that links IT infrastructure and allows, well, automation of processes. Work like this is what an awful lot of people spend an awful lot of time doing these days. It's no stretch to say jobs like this could be at risk in the near future.

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This has probably been quote before but I cba to scroll back...

https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...life-insurance

"Japanese company replaces office workers with artificial intelligence - Insurance firm Fukoku Mutual Life Insurance is making 34 employees redundant and replacing them with IBM’s Watson Explorer AI"
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As nersh says it's not just "robuts" that fall under this bracket, its also sophisticated software that links IT infrastructure and allows, well, automation of processes. Work like this is what an awful lot of people spend an awful lot of time doing these days. It's no stretch to say jobs like this could be at risk in the near future.
Or at least that automations turns the work of 50 low skill people into the work of one high skill person. It's the same problem.
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But none of that is "new", it is in effect what I've been doing for 20 years. Now when the computers start to work out the process to automate in the first place....
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No danger of a robot wanting to replace your hole digging operation is there.
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hopefully not !
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https://www.axios.com/artificial-int...394154251.html

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That example just highlights to me how bloated and immune to basic efficiencies the legal profession is
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This is well worth a read if you're still interested in the topic:

http://www.oecd.org/social/soc/Basic...esentation.pdf

U.K. benefits are pretty well designed in so far as they target the poor without giving too much too the rich (at least relative to other countries), which makes the cost of a UBI higher relative to the status quo. The UK could finance a UBI of ~230/mth without raising taxes, about one-third of the poverty line.
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Universal basic income scheme set for trials in Barcelona, Utrecht and Helsinki

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This is quite good on the topic, if a bit dense.

https://www.johnkay.com/2017/04/05/basics-basic-income/
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Haven't listened, but this is supposed to be good:

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