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Old 25-Jul-2017, 16:42   #31
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err Mel is at Dragonstone. Ser Davos said to Mel 'when I next see you I will kill you'. Davos and Jon are on the way to Dragonstone. Even if she's not killed do you think Jon will wear Mel coming back to Winterfell?

You're reaching..

I concur Arya may kill Littlefinger, but I don't see how she can wear Sansa's face without Sansa being killed.

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Sorry following up on my above post. I don't see Sansa dying, not now, and I know GRRRRRMMM kills his darlings, so she may die (but this is TV show and not book). My view is Hound and Beric turn up at Winterfell, Hound says to Arya and Sansa, 'WTF LF Gove'd your dad'. Next episode I reckon.
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Betting he dies again and we get the Beric/Lady stone heart switch from the books but ressing Jon instead

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Im betting he marries Daenerys after she takes the Iron Throne (Mostly to save the North from Dragons burning their shit up). Its the obvious choice, but fuck it.
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My son and I disagree about melisandre. He agrees Arya and Melissa will meet again.
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err Mel is at Dragonstone. Ser Davos said to Mel 'when I next see you I will kill you'. Davos and Jon are on the way to Dragonstone. Even if she's not killed do you think Jon will wear Mel coming back to Winterfell?

You're reaching..

I concur Arya may kill Littlefinger, but I don't see how she can wear Sansa's face without Sansa being killed.
Mel will fall under the protection of Dany, Davos killing her now would not be a good start to formal negotiations. The childs death was tragic and yes Mels a bitch for doing it but an ever growing army of the undead threatens to overrun the sevens kingdoms. The only two elements that can give the people a chance of survival both lay in Danys possession, so Davos will be forced to put on the big boy pants and do a deal with the devil.

Revenge for the death of one little girl or a chance at the survival of the species? I'm guessing they will choose survival and deal with Mel at a later date.
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That was basically my sons case last night.
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Maybe I need to come across as less definite in my views as it's all specualtion after all! I was in a bad mood with poor analysis after watching the terrible Thronecast on Monday night!

Taking your question seriously, I think the end will be Jon Snows end! i.e he dies again to achieve the defeat/brokered peace with the Night King.
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Well shit a lot happened there. That was great. I have to say , I'm really really surprised both the Rock and Highgarden went down in the same episode. Makes you wonder what on earth is coming.

Minor quibble about the Iron Fleet rocking up and wiping out the allied fleet , but I suppose after attacking the portion of the fleet with the sandsnakes they could have went straight after the rest carrying the unsullied.

Enjoyed the interplay with Jon and Dany and we got another Stark reunion. So Bran will tell Jon about R+L=J which potentially takes him out of play as King in the North... ?

Jorah cured! Yay! Although... seems a bit of a dead end storyline?
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Unless Grayscale has some anti wight ability! Cersei's servant / handmaiden in this episode seemed to be rather distinctive for a background / one off character. Arya in disguise? Otherwise she would have rocked up at Winterfell?
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I agree Euron's speed to Casterly Rock didn't seem feasible bearing in mind he went back to Kings Landing to deliver Elleria etc to Cersei. Agree lots happened. Disappointed in both depictions of Caterly Rock and Highgarden. Neither magnificent enough. Casterly Rock is meant to above a mountain! Not a cliff.
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Yeah a few series ago either of those sieges would have been an episode or two each. So hopefully the payoff for having them as a denouement to an episode will be good.
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I do think well played Cersei, that is how to get revenge!
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Apparently HBO has been hacked and scripts, etc have been lifted.

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Episode 4 summary:

Bronn's back and as excellent as ever.
Arya's a boss and Sansa's going to try and fuck her up.
Scenes with Dany on a dragon look shit.
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I thought it was a great episode. Bronn was excellent. I did like the dragon back stuff. Will leave further commenting for later!
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Yep, fantastic episode. As far as battles go that was second only to the Battle of the Bastards for me. Nice seeing Arya back home and giving a demonstration of what she is actually capable of in one on one combat as well. And obviously, its always good to see Bronn.

Best episode of this series so far for me.
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Bloody crap tactics from Dany, she just could have gone along the shieldwall with Draco, saved the Dothraki from charging into the spears and captured the baggage and food supplies she already said she needed.
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I'm not. They were kind of at odds with each other back in the first season, but now is a very different time and they've gone through very different experiences. I think it will bring them closer together if anything. After arya has completed her mission of course. Nothing is more important to her than killing cersei at this point.
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I'm with you, Shaun. I don't see that at all. Quite the opposite, in fact. I guess it's because the sum total of Aiden Gillen's acting for the past four years has been to have Littlefinger smirking significantly in the background of evey other shot involving Sansa like everything is going exactly as he planned. I'm pretty confident Sansa is 100% immune to his bullshit these days, and is simply happy to let him scheme away as long as she trusts that his desire to bang her means it will be to her benefit and won't get any more of her surviving family dead. Once he's served his purpose, however. . . Sansa's newfound skill in politicking, coupled with Arya's talent for murder, could well turn out to be the death of little peter.

Also, this was the best episode in a long, long time. The first in years that I've wanted to watch a second time. I still feel the quality of the writing has suffered quite markedly since they ran out of source material, but this series has been great so far.

P.S Bronn remains amazing as ever and i'm loving the Jon and Davos show.
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Thanks, The pack is stronger together. Sansa says that to LF when Arya has his dagger at his throat IMO. Bran pretty much told Littlefinger he was fucked. Especially when the Hound turns up.
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Don't mind the new writing but the old man would never have bothered with this cliffhanger "are they dead" shit!
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Aye, he would have toasted the Lannister. Bloody good episode regardless. Jon needs to be doing something though, not stuck at Dragonstone.
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