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Old 08-Apr-2018, 13:04   #61
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How the fuck can Boris describe anyone else as an idiot.
To be fair to him, he did say useful idiot. Maybe Boris is self aware enough to know that he is just a useless idiot?
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It's funny what Boris has to say about Corbyn.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-43740626

Didn’t know where to put this as talk of Syria and Russia seems to have overflowed into the Drumpf thread.

Interesting language from Macron “cannot be allowed to act” makes it sound like he has made his mind up already.
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out of the three politically weak leaders, arguably Macron needs a barny the most. That and their will be that "its our fault" thing with it being a French colony.
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I’m not sure there’s anything in Macron’s inbox that comes close to the shit Trump has festering at the moment.
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Agreed, I mean from the perspective of it having a politically positive effect. Ironically I think I'd love Macron to be British
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out of the three politically weak leaders, arguably Macron needs a barny the most. That and their will be that "its our fault" thing with it being a French colony.
Dear lord you spout some nonsense. It’s not a French colony, the French mandate post WW1 ended in 1946. The fault of the current Syrian climate is a political mess of Western involvement in the Middle East and two facist regimes taking advantage of said Western reluctance to involve themselves in another ME conflict. His interest seems to be more of genuine concern and he desire to protect innocent people from being killed by their own government, not because it’s “their fault as it’s a french colony.”

Macron needs a “barny” the least. Trump needs one to distract people from the absolute mess he’s making of the US presidency and May needs anything to distract her from the absolute shambles she’s making of Brexit and her government. Macron by contrast seems to be doing a fairly decent job.
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For what little it’s worth I suspect May’s motivated by doing what she thinks is the right thing here. I think she’ll be pretty pleased with how the first 3 months of the year have gone given how bad it all looked at the end of the year. She’ll not contest the next election and I think her objective of a somewhat graceful leadership transition looks a touch more likely than it did 3 months ago.
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Dear lord you spout some nonsense. It’s not a French colony, the French mandate post WW1 ended in 1946. The fault of the current Syrian climate is a political mess of Western involvement in the Middle East and two facist regimes taking advantage of said Western reluctance to involve themselves in another ME conflict. His interest seems to be more of genuine concern and he desire to protect innocent people from being killed by their own government, not because it’s “their fault as it’s a french colony.”
You could attempt to interpret some of the language less than 110% literally you know, though I imagine it may be difficult through the spittle of indignation you've plastered over the screen.
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Russia claims Britain carried out the gas attack in Syria. Amazing bollocks that a number of useful idiots will respond to ambiguously.
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Oh well, America , UK and France launch strikes on Syria. Let's see what the Russian response will be?
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Jumping in like this without a parliamentary vote is sheer cuntery. I'm sure it'll play well with the Mail readers/EDL/BNP though. Odds on Boris the Animal trying to draw some political capital from this?
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Looks like Syrian air defences held up pretty well.
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Oh well, America , UK and France launch strikes on Syria. Let's see what the Russian response will be?
I have a feeling they'll send a couple of submarines to linger threateningly on our maritime border, most likely up here and send a couple of planes into our airspace, just to fuck with us. Most likely France and the US will be ignored by them. The bombing of those bases isn't going to bother Putin one bit, just means Russia gets to sell replacement equipment and arms to Syria.

Russia has been using campaigns of misinformation and saying one thing while quite obviously doing another for a long time now, there's a lot of discussion about it in the excellent Hypernormalisation :


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Also, isn't a bombing campaign like this without agreement or sanction from the UN security council considered a war crime?

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The Syrian research facility destroyed in the missile strike was already inspected and cleared by the OPCW

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And they're now throwing journalists off balconies.
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Indeed.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-43781351

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“Local officials said no suicide note was found but the incident was unlikely to be of a criminal nature.”

But y’know, we’re all as bad as each other etc etc
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Local officials are clearly not keen on being thrown out of windows either. Wimps.
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The No Shit Sherlock report concludes that the Russians shot down MH17 and killed the 298 innocent people on it.
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Another critic of the current Russian regime is murdered.
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Said murdered journalist becomes a modern day Jesus Christ

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Does that count as real news or fake news. Is this the fake news? Was the first part fake and this real? I just can't tell any more.

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