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Old 12-Jul-2017, 16:42   #301
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What does pedes mean?
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Liberal? Trump? Really?
Obviously perspective dependent, but his dislike of immigration and crass behaviour trades off against a whole heap of stuff that ties the average republican in knots.That and he used to be a democrat.


Pedes is short for Centipedes, which is what I think some Trump supporters refer to themselves as - I have no idea why but I guess there is a reason buried somewhere
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I'd ask for some examples of liberal behaviour since he took office.
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Not change any social freedoms for americans at all or suggesting at changes? Whereas your Cruz or Pences of the world would be focused on all the typical religious right stuff. Off course hes a general republican on other stuff like taxation etc
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Old 12-Jul-2017, 18:17   #305
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Could you be more vague.
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I can't prove a negative, ergo not enacting restrictions is all I can offer. If society is socially liberal, not changing society or attempting to change it means you pretty socially liberal. Although I recognise that in the current political world, not being on board with a single item on the liberal smorgasbord makes one binary evil like all Tories
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If left of Pence is the definition of liberal, then Trump is a liberal. But that is not the definition of liberal.
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Liberal - promoting women in STEM

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Didn't he also campaign on guaranteed paid maternity leave for women? I forget.
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Promoting women in STEM while denying funding to women's health organisations globally. Campaigning on broader maternity provisions while trying to defund planned parenthood.
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Im surprised anyone actually believes Trump holds any political position whatsoever.

Now if you want to talk about what "his" administration will actually do...
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Im surprised anyone actually believes Trump holds any political position whatsoever.

Now if you want to talk about what "his" administration will actually do...
You're absolutely right, there's no design here, just a fucking idiot.
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Old 12-Jul-2017, 21:24   #316
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There was a request for liberal behaviour examples; I just threw some out there .
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If left of Pence is the definition of liberal, then Trump is a liberal. But that is not the definition of liberal.
Language is fluid. Certainly in US politics & economics liberal doesn't mean left wing centrist/progressive. American usage is more laissez-faire capitalism isn't it i.e. neo-liberal economics.
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Well, to be precise, they asked for examples of behaviour since he took office. That picture is from the campaign, where it now seems reasonably clear he would do and say anything he thought would help get him elected. That aside, holding a flag is a pretty meaningless act in of itself.

In terms of actual LGBT related events/policies/appointments for the administration, here's a brief selection that I remember reading about, but certainly not exhaustive:

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Trump tweets prides for his hotel and skating rink, but doesn't recognize LGBT pride month on Twitter
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Trump’s refusal to officially count LGBT Americans is more dangerous than it appears
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"He faced backlash in 2015 for saying homosexuality was a choice. Later the same year when asked by a journalist if transgender individuals should be allowed access to the restroom of the opposite sex, he replied, "It is not fair for them to make everybody else uncomfortable."

“Marriage is between a man and a woman,” Carson told Fox News host Sean Hannity. “It’s a well-established, fundamental pillar of society and no group — be they gays, be they NAMBLA, be they people who believe in bestiality, it doesn’t matter what they are — they don’t get to change the definition.”
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Jeff Sessions addresses 'anti-LGBT hate group,' but DOJ won't release his remarks
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Neil Gorsuch, their choice to fill the vacant supreme court seat:

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Then there's, you know, 'his' choice for VP
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Language is fluid. Certainly in US politics & economics liberal doesn't mean left wing centrist/progressive. American usage is more laissez-faire capitalism isn't it i.e. neo-liberal economics.
Depends who you ask I guess, but I think Americans think of liberals as socially liberal godless heathens.
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The definition of liberal is as fluid as Trump's opinions, although to be fair given the pedantry I also posted examples post his election. It's all moot depending on who you ask. In any event he represents the GOP and its voter base which by definition is less socially liberal than the Democrats; there's an element of realpolitik in his cabinet appointments and policies. It's for the same reason the Tories are now unfortunately having to consider some of Labour's loony policies.
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I do find it interesting though that after 50 years of social progress, Trump rolls back what 6 months and appoints a couple of christians and is instantly not liberal. Literally being 6 months behind the current progress curve
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Aren't generation Z supposed to be more conservative than the millennials as well? Perhaps he's simply being prophetic
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For all the complete bollocks you two collectively manage to post, somehow it's still the smilies you insist on finishing them with that triggers me more than anything.

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A house democrat files first article of impeachment against Trump.

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