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Old 12-Oct-2018, 16:17   #1771
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The latest documents have been released about a No Deal Brexit. Anything of note so far?
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Old 12-Oct-2018, 16:22   #1772
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Not really in my view. It’ll be very bad, probably not as bad as the press makes it out to be, but still very bad.
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I was wondering if there was any more about settled status for EU nationals?

e: nothing. They're all here: https://www.gov.uk/government/collec...u-with-no-deal. Just look for the 12th October ones.
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Old 14-Oct-2018, 09:48   #1774
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Nice piece from Nick Cohen from today's Observer.

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There it is. Brexit Ideology naked for all to see. Doesn't matter if we fuck ourselves as long as Jonny Foreigner is told what's what.
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Old 15-Oct-2018, 02:36   #1776
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Daniel Hannan promoting his jingoistic article in the Telegraph, being thoroughly owned by the spoof account.

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If there was an election now (extremely unlikely, I know), and Corbyn got a majority, how would Brexit negotiations be different?
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Old 15-Oct-2018, 13:21   #1778
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Extension and a negotiation for Norway+.
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If there was an election now (extremely unlikely, I know), and Corbyn got a majority, how would Brexit negotiations be different?
They wouldn't be different.

Labour would still need to avoid a hard border in N.Ireland, under Corbyn would still want to 'act on the referendum result' and also retain all the benefits of membership without being members.

In other words, Labour want to have their cake and eat it in a similar way to the Tories.


Only real difference as i see it is that Labour are unwilling to accept hard-brexit as an option
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Well they'd accept customs union membership so the hard border issue largely falls away, but they certainly wouldn't satisfy their own six tests.
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Which were of course Tory promises to begin with.
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I don't recall them being framed as "promises" or tests, but regardless it was a stupid comment then and those tests remain so.
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The key one is “the exact same benefits” as the Customs Union and Single Market, which was and is clearly bollocks.
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I'm trying to find the quote but it was David Davis that said them in Parliament as his outcomes for a successful Brexit.

“What we have come up with [in our plan for Brexit] … is the idea of a comprehensive free trade agreement and a comprehensive customs agreement that will deliver the exact same benefits as we have.”
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Wasn't that the genesis of Boris' cakeism?
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Strong and stable backstops.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45868503
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Full list of quotes the 6 tests are based on:

Test one: Does it ensure a strong and collaborative future relationship with the EU?

“[The UK will] continue to collaborate with our European partners on major science, research, and technology initiatives. From space exploration to clean energy to medical technologies, Britain will remain at the forefront of collective endeavours to better understand, and make better, the world in which we live."

Test two: Does it deliver the “exact same benefits” as we currently have as members of the Single Market and Customs Union?

“What we have come up with [in our plan for Brexit] … is the idea of a comprehensive free trade agreement and a comprehensive customs agreement that will deliver the exact same benefits as we have.”

Test three: Does it ensure the fair management of migration in the interests of the economy and
communities?

“We will continue to attract the brightest and the best to work or study in Britain… but that process must be managed properly so that our immigration system serves the national interest.”

“We will not be managing the immigration policy or migration policy in a way that harms the national interest. That means not causing labour shortages or shortages of talent and so on. That applies not just globally, but to each nation state of the United Kingdom”

Test four: Does it defend rights and protections and prevent a race to the bottom?

“There is no circumstance under which we will rip up workers’ rights”

“Will the deal defend rights and protections and prevent a race to the bottom? We have been very clear that workers’ rights will be protected—they are not up for negotiation”

Test five: Does it protect national security and our capacity to tackle cross-border crime?

“With the threats to our common security becoming more serious, our response cannot be to co-operate with one another less, but to work together more.”

Test six: Does it deliver for all regions and nations of the UK?

“A stronger Britain demands that we do something else – strengthen the precious union between the four nations of the United Kingdom.”
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Survey from Hope Not Hate showing divide attitudes in modern Britain.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...m-in-attitudes

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Reducing immigration levels alone will not alleviate anxiety about new arrivals, not least since those most likely to express those views are based predominantly in areas where few immigrants actually live.

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“The strong view in many of these communities is that they have been abandoned and left to rot by the political establishment in preference to addressing the needs and wishes of new arrivals in the cities.”
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Major dropping some truth bombs. Bit too late though, John.

And a twitter thread in pdf form about Brexit https://www.docdroid.net/m3YvOS5/bre...th-revised.pdf
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Major’s been pretty consistent throughout this national embarrassment.
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Looks like they're trying to limit the Brexit outcome to a choice between stupid or really, really stupid.

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OECD analysis suggest that UK economy will grow 1.5% slower in 2019 alone, thus making the UK poorer to the tune of £40bn, in the event of a hard Brexit in March.

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