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Old 11-Apr-2009, 04:31   #1
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this is a drunken rant.. but the way i see it.. is its something that has to be said....
steven oakes was killled jus a few doors up from where i live... he was a PC (not computer) who was involved in a RAID against terrorists with chemical weapons... he was stabbed in the chest whilst trying to arrest the terrorists, and died of his wounds due to not havin the right kind of body armour on... yet he was doing his duty for the british public... now since his death a tribute has been made of marble at the place where he fell...

now... i live literally on the same road as where this happened and where the tribute is... and i'm proud to say that when i pass the place where this happened.. that i look on at the monument for Steven Oakes and thank him and the force for the work they do in lookin after "us" as a public and a community...

yet for the second time this has been smashed up into bits (the monument).... and made a mockery of... i find it a fucking disgrace that a few people of my city/town feel the need to do this to a sacred place, with has great significance to the local people and to the city as a whole in these times where we are having raids on houses and familys being linked to terrorist activity in the local community....

i find it fucking disgusting that some cunt(s) would do this for whatever reason, be it religion or whatever... it's a fucking disgrace... some poor fella done his job and paid for it with his life to save us as a public.... yet mindless scum feel the need to smash his monument up in a mark of disrespect... now what sort of people do this?
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Old 11-Apr-2009, 05:38   #2
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Sigh.

So just because a police officer gets injured (because he didn't do his job properly I might add) in the line of duty he becomes a fucking hero?

I don't share your compassion for the British police force. I fail to see where they protect the public mostly.
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BBW, your wife/bird looks like Pat Butcher. I don't believe you're really qualified to comment.

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So just because a police officer gets injured (because he didn't do his job properly I might add) in the line of duty he becomes a fucking hero?

I don't share your compassion for the British police force. I fail to see where they protect the public mostly.
What a tit!

Yet cunts like this are the first to phone them as soon as they get in a sticky situation.

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We were walking through town the other day and passed a bus stop with a police recruitment ad on it. The slogan said "We'd like to give you a good talking to" and underneath someone had scrawled in black marker pen "and we'd like to stab you in the face". I lol'd.

They are people. They have a job to do. They are the sort of people who either a) want to hit people with clubs b) want to walk around airports with a machinegun with impunity or c) want to make society a safer place - unfortunately, the ones that tend to make the headlines fall into groups a and b. There's a group d which comprises those from ethnic minorities who are trying to make a point/fortune but that's another issue.
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So just because a police officer gets injured (because he didn't do his job properly I might add) in the line of duty he becomes a fucking hero?

I don't share your compassion for the British police force. I fail to see where they protect the public mostly.
injured??? he died... he died doing his job.. and that job was saving others from dying..

you fail to see where they protect the public mostly.. so what yopur saying is.. you can't see how the arrests of these terror suspects is in any way making public places any safer??

if these cunts were left to do what they want then other people would surely die. no?

and also... never mind the fact that the monument was for a copper.. is it any different from say kids smashing up a head stone in a graveyard? it's still a mark of disrespect.. on a main road.. and thats out of order
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So just because a police officer gets injured (because he didn't do his job properly I might add) in the line of duty he becomes a fucking hero?

I don't share your compassion for the British police force. I fail to see where they protect the public mostly.
You just love making yourself look an asshole :/ yet a chav driving a pimped Focus would have a problem with the police I suppose.
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you can't see how the arrests of these terror suspects is in any way making public places any safer??
That's if you actually believe that they are Terrorists in the first place eh...

The whole fucking "terrorist threat" in my opinion is a ruse just so that any rights that we have as civilians are completely eroded.

You have got to remember that the "brave" policeman that died is part of the system that is systematically taking away every single civil liberty we had as a free, democratic nation.

Fuck me even due to the so called "terrorist threat" we aren't allowed to take photo's anymore on the street without going through the "system", if this is being looked after then I'd rather be out there on my own to be honest!
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well whether they believed them to be terrorists or not, the fucker still went at people with a kitchen knife... killing one person... so either way you look at it.. the fucker was still a threat
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Yet cunts like this are the first to phone them as soon as they get in a sticky situation.
Then get arrested as the as the ones causing the sticky situation get let off on their merry way or if they do get arrested for some crime then get let off with a pat on the back from the courts, just as would happen to the people that smashed the memorial up.


It's pretty shit for someone to smash the memorial up though.
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I do think there are people out there that are just bonkers enough to want to blow up people. We have seen the evidence. The problem is that the Government thinks they can legislate and legislate and they can stop it. They cant. Add to that a sense of paranoia, someone not wanting it to be their fault ( always someone wanting to point a finger) and thus making the net too big and add a sprinkling of people out for their own ends, money usually, and we have a slow slide away from our freedoms.

But saying that every cop out there is a power mad bastard or just trying to take away our liberties is also way off the mark. Again small number tarnishing the majority. I dont see anyone saying that every Muslim is a terrorist, that everyone in france is a coward or that every american sleeps with their sister.
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well whether they believed them to be terrorists or not, the fucker still went at people with a kitchen knife... killing one person... so either way you look at it.. the fucker was still a threat
So using your logic here then, anybody who attacks a person with a knife then is a terrorist?

Or is it the people who attack you with a knife who have a house full of dodgy DVD's are the terrorists?

I just need clarification so I can sleep more easier at night.
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"you can't see how the arrests of these terror suspects is in any way making public places any safer?? if these cunts were left to do what they want then other people would surely die. no?"

there's a bit of a difference between being a suspected terrorist and a terrorist, i'd imagine.

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bad man.. although i am wondering.. did her mothers day breakfast go cold ya reckon?
and damn everyone who disrespects the dead in a public location! yeah!
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There's also quite a lot of difference between a terrorist and a criminal. It's just far easier since the terrorism act to do what the fuck you want to a member of the public if you define them as the former.
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Tried that when we protested against the laughably named criminal justice act, against the invasion of iraq and the commoditisation of our freedoms during anti-cap/globalisation demos. They did it anyway because they know most people don't give a fuck until something causes them inconvenience whilst sat on their own sofas.
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It will take summit big . Sadly i cant see anything big coming that wont actually make things worse.
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Tried that when we protested against the laughably named criminal justice act, against the invasion of iraq and the commoditisation of our freedoms during anti-cap/globalisation demos. They did it anyway because they know most people don't give a fuck until something causes them inconvenience whilst sat on their own sofas.
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I honestly thought that having armed police running round with licenses to kill, local councils having the ability to order surveillance on whoever they want and living with risk of being detained for 28 days without charge would be enough to bother a majority.

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So using your logic here then, anybody who attacks a person with a knife then is a terrorist?

Or is it the people who attack you with a knife who have a house full of dodgy DVD's are the terrorists?

I just need clarification so I can sleep more easier at night.
now ur just being pedantic, the guy was on watch for being a terror suspect.
wether he was or wasnt is irrelivant, the fact he went at the copper with a kitchen knife shows that they were watching someone who was a danger to society, terrorist or not.

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So using your logic here then, anybody who attacks a person with a knife then is a terrorist?

Or is it the people who attack you with a knife who have a house full of dodgy DVD's are the terrorists?

I just need clarification so I can sleep more easier at night.
sorry i should have re phrased that... i didn't mean anyone who goes for someone with a knife is a terrorist.. they are a threat to other people.

if the fella they were watching wasn't upto anything suss would he have gone for the copper with a blade? doubt it..

as said previously the bloke (oake) was only doing his job.. did he deserve to die? no... i just found it sickenin that some cunt would smash up that thing.. now his wife is gonna go through some form of upset, knowing that it's been done again..
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I wonder if he was as much of a danger before eight armed men kicked his door in and ransacked his house? And you speak of the terrorist watch list as if it's not capable of being fucking wrong.
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now... i live literally on the same road as where this happened
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I wonder if he was as much of a danger before eight armed men kicked his door in and ransacked his house? And you speak of the terrorist watch list as if it's not capable of being fucking wrong.
Out of interest, Inertia, if eight armed men kicked your door in and ransacked your house, would you go at any of them with a kitchen knife?

I fucking doubt it.

Minty might though.
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