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Old 18-Jan-2013, 19:21   #121
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How prevalent was the use of EPO by the other riders in the TDF during Armstrong's reign?
From what I gather, huge...I get the impression there were more using EPO than not!
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His worst crime is how he's behaved towards others.
Indeed, he sued quite a few if I remember correctly, some for calling him a cheat.
The guy is a grade a cunt.
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How prevalent was the use of EPO by the other riders in the TDF during Armstrong's reign?
In the interview he said he didn't view EPO as cheating as the definition of cheating was to gain an advantage over your competitors.
He viewed it as a level playing field.

So if you believe that, and lets face it why wouldn't you?? ....oh wait........
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everyone knows it's a bent sport and has been for years, just look at the jerseys.
lance is the figurehead rightly getting done for cheating, what about his coaches, the team management etc... what's being done about their level of culpability, they had no idea, didn't condone his actions for the win, didn't wonder at his,'greatness' and ask questions? and the same for the other teams that cheated but weren't getting as good results.

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The most annoying thing is he's clearly still lying his arse off, trying to make out that he stopped doping in 2005 and that his 3rd place finish was clean. No coincidence that if he could get his life ban shortened it would likely be an 8 year ban from the last case of doping. In 2005. So he could race in triathlons in......oh yeah, 2013. Fuck off.
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http://edition.cnn.com/2013/04/23/ju...ong/index.html

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Old 24-Apr-2013, 10:32   #127
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He'll have to sell a bollock to settle that bill.
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Yeah this hassle must be doing his nut in.
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He must feel a right plum (or is it the left?)
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He shouldn't have gonad taken drugs in the first place.
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Lol, some of the others are class. Ghandi vs Martin Luther king...
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Eufemiano Fuentes will sell sordid details of cheating in high-level football, athletics and the Olympics to highest bidder
Oop! Any bets on him having a mysterious accident before being able to do this?
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I'd almost rather that than the cunt make money out of it.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/31789849

Basically all cunts. The idea that the UCI never had a clue about the endemic doping was always laughable. Further they appear to have been complicit in steering previous reports away from the damning truth of it all.
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Reads like a report into FIFA woukd if it were ever to arrive.
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This looks pretty bad for Wiggo

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Yeah , best case scenario is they have been guilty of shoddy standards and practices.

I would - sigh - really like to think he / sky have done it clean , given the focus and attention and sheer number of tests they will have underwent and retesting etc , but they certainly haven't done themselves any favours with this.
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Does anyone seriously believe there are any clean cyclists anywhere near the top?
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Does anyone seriously believe there are any clean cyclists anywhere near the top?
I'm deeply cynical about any elite level athletes being clean.

I think everyone who has been involved at the top level of any athletic event that pushes the body's limits in endurance or strength has 100% used illegal substances to get to where they are.

They should probably just get rid of drug testing. I want to see the best a human can do and if that involves performance enhancing drugs then fine. It's massively unfair on anyone that wants to compete cleanly but tough, life's not fair.
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Fortunately that's never going to happen.
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Yeah in that scenario you may as well just forget the event and just have quick weighing to see who has the biggest pile of money.
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Implying of course that the UK didn't just effectively spend 10m per medal at the last Olympics
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Yep, and I don't particularly support that either.
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Yeah in that scenario you may as well just forget the event and just have quick weighing to see who has the biggest pile of money.
They're human beings not machines. They're not limited by the money piled into them but physiology and mental strength.

I don't imagine the drugs are prohibitively expensive for any elite athlete.
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They are. Anyway, point is that if you start an arms race they'll become dramatically more expensive given the amount of cash that'll be allocated towards it.
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