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Old 03-Jun-2011, 09:25   #1
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Dyslexia - is it a Learning difficulty, a learning difference or a learning disability?
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Old 03-Jun-2011, 09:30   #2
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Learning Disability, but you can overcome it.
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I lean towards "difficulty" because it can be overcome but it can be a struggle.
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Old 03-Jun-2011, 09:34   #5
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Id say disability because it actually makes learning difficult through no fault of their own.
It impedes their ability to learn at the same rate as someone without it
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So much for quick question... disability carries a whole host of negative connotations as well as the suggestion that they are not able to learn whereas difficulty merely demonstrates that it isn't easy. My actual question relates to a crappy application form I've been asked to design where the original says "learning differences" which I thought looked bizarre.
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Wikipedia says "disability"
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Wikipedia is stupid - also there is a MASSIVE US bias where it is referred to as a disability for reasons stated further down the page.
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Aye the word itself does make it sound a bit negative, tbh If you put difficulty your in the same ball park and couldnt be judged wrong by any means
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Learning Disability is not a specific term; it is a category containing many specific disabilities, all of which cause learning to be difficult. The following definition of "learning disability" is used for legislative, financial, and educational purposes only. It is NOT a definition of dyslexia, which is one specific learning disability.

The term 'learning disability' means a disorder in one or more of the basic processes involved in understanding spoken or written language. It may show up as a problem in listening, thinking, speaking, reading, writing, or spelling or in a person's ability to do math, despite at least average intelligence.

The term does not include children who have learning problems which are primarily the result of visual, hearing, or physical handicaps, or mental retardation, or emotional disturbance, or of environmental, cultural, or economic disadvantage.
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That's the US definition from Wikipaedo. As such, I reject it.
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difficulty sounds like they can't be bothered, disability implies it's not your fault you were born that way and you can learn to cope but you need a bib, i think it's the latter

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I lean towards "difficulty" because it can be overcome but it can be a struggle.
sounds like early attitudes to racism, bummingobia, slavery, marmite

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It wasnt m8, it was off a random site when I searched for definition of dyslexia.
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Well, the wiki article nicked it from there or vice-versa. Where's our army of resident dyslexia victims to give their opinion?
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I'd go with a learning difficulty, it might make learning hard for you but not impossible.

A learning disability, like all disability's to me is something that can't be overcome.
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What about learning difference? Yes, they do prefer to learn differently but is it more difficult than the "normal" method? I think I can safely reject "disability" as it isn't a disability per se.
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I thought it was one of those new, trendy things which everyone claims to have as they can't be arsed to learn to spell correctly.
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Are Ray Bans called Ray Bans because they ‘ban the rays’ from your eyes?

Or were they invented by a chap called Raymond Ban?
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From the British Dyslexia Association (DBA)

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Dyslexia is a specific learning difficulty which mainly affects the development of literacy and language related skills.

It is likely to be present at birth and to be lifelong in its effects. It is characterised by difficulties with phonological processing, rapid naming, working memory, processing speed, and the automatic development of skills that may not match up to an individual’s other cognitive abilities.

It tends to be resistant to conventional teaching methods, but its effects can be mitigated by appropriately specific intervention, including the application of information technology and supportive counselling.
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My son has it and its always been talked about as learning difficulties. His mum says its a disability but she's a sponging work shy chavvy tart so therefore is wrong.
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Are Ray Bans called Ray Bans because they ‘ban the rays’ from your eyes?

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No mention of Raymond Ban on Wiki. There are also about 1000 fan pages on Facebook for Ray Bans but nobody actually called Ray Ban. Some parents have no sense of humour.
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OK - I'm rolling with "Learning difficulty" then. I had pretty much made up my mind before but thought I'd get some perspective.
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Didn't "difficulty" come into use due to political correctness?
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isn't retard just an easier word to spell for them though?
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Yes and it is in a bid to be politically correct but not politically stupid that I want to say "difficulty" rather than "difference" or "disability". Of course, all of these terms came under one catch all term pre-1980s: thick.
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I think the PC brigade would call it "Learning Disability" ... but I tend to think of it as "Peeple hoo cnat spel propur"
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