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Old 08-Apr-2018, 13:39   #571
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Managed to force Cameron into acknowledging them by promising the referendum.
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I’m not sure what the equivalent “win” is for the new party, and it took the best part of 25 years for anti-EU feeling post-Maastricht to create enough support for a single issue that sustained a party. Maybe this party will also find it’s single issue and slide into obscurity as well? In other news, the BNP will lose their only remaining elected representative shortly as well. Hurrah.
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This new bunch feels like a vehicle to get Blair back into power.
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This new bunch feels like a vehicle to get Blair back into power.
I'd rather have him than any of this tory crowd.
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Christ that's saying something.

Funding wins there days right? Boggles the mind to think about how much new, liberal money both main parties are leaving on the shelf with their europhobia. 50 mill is the tip of the iceberg.
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Managed to force Cameron into acknowledging them by promising the referendum.
That was far more about Cameron's own Bastards than UKIP imo. Although their PR ascendancy would have definitely helped move the issue on.
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Iím not sure £50m is the tip of the iceberg. Itís an extraordinary amount of money in the context of U.K. political donations and I donít think Labour and the Tories would receive anything close to that donation if they suddenly pivoted (itís not like the LDs are coining it as the no Brexit party).
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why would anyone want to throw away £50m on a party functionally indistinguishable from the liberals, though naturally I support anything that fragments the labour vote.
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It keeps all the racists in one place, though
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https://www.theguardian.com/news/201...-rana-dasgupta

Not sure if this has been shared before but this provides a well written perspective on how current political structures are failing to keep up with the most important trend post-WW2: globalisation.

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Fans of Diane Abbott completely shitting the bed over a string of really simple questions would enjoy this morning's today programme from about 0810. Jesus wept.
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Oh god, what's she said now?
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"if there was a second world war"

She really has to fuck off and shut up. Even when their are occasional decent points they just get lost and you find yourself unable to ever be on the same side of the argument as her.

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She fucked up again with her Twitter post this morning.

She's a class A clown.
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PM has U-turned on Windrush Immigration.

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Really needs cutting together with a Malcolm Tucker set of reactions. She's just incredible. I don't know why she's allowed on air any more.

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Awkward. Using the 'humanitarian' as legal justification seems to be a can of worms. What's to stop the Russian's or the Chinese deciding to take JC up on his suggestion and bomb the Saudis or the Israeli's?
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Corbyn should just come out and say that there are no circumstances in which he’d advocate the use of force.
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I'm pretty sure he would nuke London to free the oppressed client states of Gibraltar and the Falklands from the perfidious British
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Perhaps but I can't fault his logic in this specific case.
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Perhaps but I can't fault his logic in this specific case.
Well we can go back to pretending that we’re all as bad as each other, that we’ve killed people as well, and that the word of Russian Foreign Minister means anything. The capitulation of mainstream thought to this perspective may be Corbyn’s most toxic legacy (aided and abetted by everyone involved in Iraq).
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On the bright side, we'll lack the capacity to intervene in future given the state of our military budget.
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