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Who andy or Trump? Or both?
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Take him within the context of who he is - this is a man who mocked a reporter's disabilities at a rally. The fact that he referred to a collection of poor countries as shitholes in a 'private' meeting should be entirely unsurprising. No one voted in Obama this time - expecting Trump to mature in office, or otherwise express "Presidential behaviour", was always naive.
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See i take it as the opposite - if you have someone who doesnt have a history of being a sack of shite id probably let them away with a slip or two. But when its part of a proven history of being aforementioned sack of shite they should be hauled over the coals as its obviously not an aberration , its the fact that the president of the US is a sack of shite.
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Has for the naivety point, there weren’t many of us here who thought he was anything other than a misogynistic, racist, ignorant manbaby. I think the uncertainty was whether America’s institutions would constrain him, on which the jury is still out.
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Who exactly is expressing surprise anyway?
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Fair - the interesting test as to whether he's moderated will be after the mid-terms. If he loses control of the House and there's a realistic prospect at that stage of impeachment proceedings then we'll see if he changes.
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People said he would tack to the centre after winning the Republican nomination and then repeated that claim once he won the Presidential election. It's clear that was wishful thinking. I don't know how many more examples anyone needs to reach the blindingly obvious conclusion that he's totally unsuited to be President.
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https://theconversation.com/trump-is...-for-him-89675
Along those lines, a timely article from The Conversation
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Same old guff. The fact some believe he's unfit for office doesn't mean he should be removed. This obsession with his tweets and voluminous faux pas is bordering on compulsion. There's an excellent lead in this week's Economist on this:
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I’m convinced , the economy of that country I don’t live is doing ok , viva la racists.
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It’s really simple, continue to ridicule him so that his approval ratings continue to fall and the Republican generic ballot with it, try to avoid any material legislation between now and November, hope that they lose the House, block everything for the following two years.
The economy point is hilarious - economy is his strong point, the economy’s doing fine, and he’s still at almost unprecedentedly low levels of public approval. Maybe the longest bull market in history lasts another 3 years, but on the off chance it doesn’t, what then for his popularity? Last edited by Orange; 13-Jan-2018 at 17:50. |
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I'm not sure that article supports the position you say it does.
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Well of course not entirely. Although I subscribe, The Economist is far too liberal metropolitan elite for my tastes
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It appears to precisely say that he needs to be removed from office because he's unfit for office, but that twitter shouldn't decide. Which noone is saying it should anyway.
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Removed in the democratically appropriate manner as you say. The subtext of the recent ramblings is that a great many folks would be happy with his removal howsoever simply because he's vehemently disliked and perceived as unfit - to take an example, the recent and semi-serious discussions on invoking the 25th was bonkers. I'm not arguing he's suitable.
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Invoking the 25th seems incredibly unlikely, but discussing it continues to undermine his credibility.
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Removal is not really an option, because then there's Pence. Just going to have to sit out out for 3 years and hope.
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It’s not really for us given we’re Brits, but the answer is not to sit it out but fight a constant resistance.
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Yeh considered that, the us bit, but it does have an affect on us. Resistance i can get behind, but there's not a deal else.
My fucking mp refused to consider raising questions in parliament about a state visit, as he said something like, 'They're a good friend to us, and we must support them whenever'. I hardly expected anything else, given his answers on a range of questions, chiefly about gov't attitudes to computer snooping.
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Yeah you’re right, and I guess things like the state visit are where British actions could make a difference, but I’m always slightly reminded of the Guardian’s letter writing campaign at the 2004 (?) election to encourage U.K. readers to write letters to US voters asking them not to vote Bush.
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Not immediately relevant, just pretty interesting: the history of the Russian consulate in SF and the lack of response to it being closed.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/12/14/...ampaign=buffer
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Trump says he's not a racist.
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I'd love to know whether this is deliberate or not - going from a book generating daily headlines, to DACA discussion seeming cordial to the entirety of the US actively having the debate of what countries are shitholes and the merits of lottery and family unification immigration policies is beautiful from a Machiavellian perspective.
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No it's not. My pleasure.
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America first and MAGA in one tweet ? Shits about to hit the fan somewhere.
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Might be as simple as it appears - blaming Democrats for DACA failure. Might work if you have decent approval ratings....
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But he’s the biggliest most popular president ever
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So if I understand various loose sources correctly Haiti's court have uncorked Baby Doc Duvalier's money laundering indictments, which have some crossover into Trump's estate. Not sure it matters a cock as I'm sure Baby Doc Duvalier was a minor figure that Trump never met etc maga fake news.
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