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Old 25-Sep-2004, 00:01   #1
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I thought Jolt admins were bad........try axia

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ession Start: Fri Sep 24 23:43:57 2004
Session Ident: #axia
[23:43] * Now talking in #axia
[23:43] * Topic is 'Axia IRC Channel: cs.axia.org.uk & csx.axia.org.uk (Condition Zero and CS 1.6 respectively)'
[23:43] * Set by EnemySpy on Mon Aug 23 20:13:17
[23:43] -L- [#AXIA] Welcome to AXIA. AXIA Servers: cs.axia.org.uk (1.6) & csx.axia.org.uk
[23:44] <Jyster> hi
[23:44] #axia Cannot send to channel
[23:45] <Jyster> hello
[23:45] #axia Cannot send to channel
[23:45] * cs-bot sets mode: +v Jyster
[23:45] * cs-bot sets mode: +v Heppie
[23:46] <Jyster> hello
[23:46] <Heppie> hi
[23:46] <Jyster> any cs:cz admin here
[23:46] <Heppie> no
[23:46] <EnemySpy> lol
[23:46] <Sensai> sort of
[23:46] <Jyster> ive been perma baned from the server
[23:46] <Heppie> <--- retired
[23:46] <Jyster> just wondered why
[23:46] <Jyster> was only on there for 5 minutes :*(
[23:46] <Fouiky> lol heps
[23:46] <Heppie> was your name Horrific Anal Injuries?
[23:46] <EnemySpy> you were banned for wh
[23:46] <Jyster> you are kidding me right
[23:46] <Heppie> doh
[23:47] <Jyster> on what evidence ?
[23:47] <Heppie> !cs Hello Adam... btw Cool Hand Luke is DA SHIT
[23:47] <EnemySpy> you were banned previously
[23:47] <Jyster> was i? when ?
[23:47] <Jyster> i havent played on axia servers for quite sometime
[23:48] <Jyster> only got cs:cz the other day and play on axia when our zhg community servers r full
[23:48] <Jyster> or empty
[23:48] <Jyster> as they are now
[23:48] <EnemySpy> wonder why
[23:48] <Jyster> when was i banned previously ?
[23:48] <Heppie> lol i love that random quote: (manic-depression adj.: Easy glum, easy glow) lol
[23:48] <Jyster> before you say wonder why do you even know what zhg is?
[23:49] * Heppie goes for a shower now. No peeping (that goes twice for Marine)
[23:49] <Jyster> its a community for players that are over the age of 35 that like to play games without cheats and script kiddies etc etc
[23:49] <EnemySpy> like ....
[23:49] <Jyster> www.zhgclan.com
[23:49] <EnemySpy> someone refresh my memory plz
[23:49] <EnemySpy> someone replace my broken ram chips
[23:49] <EnemySpy> ffs
[23:50] <Jyster> i used to admin on BY servers , when they were alive. not get banned for no reason
[23:50] <Marine|TaHua> lol heps
[23:50] <Heppie> :o BY is no more?
[23:50] <Jyster> on what evidence have i been banned for wallhacking pls ?
[23:50] <EnemySpy> BY is no more for some time
[23:50] <Jyster> id like to see a demo or something
[23:50] <Jyster> yes i know its no more
[23:51] <EnemySpy> axia has had to suffer the aftermath
[23:51] <Jyster> i havent played on axia for months and months only reason i played on it was cause it was a nraly full server on ASE the day i got cs:cz
[23:51] <Jyster> and i enjoy playing there
[23:52] <EnemySpy> I have to say, I lookup IPs, and when they resolve to blueyonder I nearly always ban
[23:52] <Jyster> i remeber you from the old axia cs servers enemy
[23:52] <Jyster> well my ip is NTL
[23:52] <Jyster> so you ban just for being on BY ips ?
[23:53] <EnemySpy> no
[23:53] <EnemySpy> If I have grounds to lookup an IP
[23:53] <Jyster> well look up mine, its ntl
[23:53] <EnemySpy> ie. someone is creating a fuss
[23:54] <Jyster> i dont wh enemy, players like makaveli are just as good as me or even better
[23:54] <Jyster> i was only on the server for 5 minutes
[23:54] <Jyster> i had a score of 11-0 does that make me a wh ?
[23:56] <EnemySpy> it conflicts with axia policy
[23:56] <EnemySpy> but, I think you already know that
[23:56] <Jyster> what does ?
[23:56] <Jyster> i dont understand what you mean
[23:56] <EnemySpy> axia is supposed to be a fun server
[23:57] <Jyster> well i only came for a bit of fun , i had a real laugh with some of the players the other day. which is why i came back
[23:57] <Jyster> for a quick game before bed
[23:57] <cs-bot> [cs] <<< Loading map: de_vostok_cz >>>
[23:57] <EnemySpy> yeh, well ur not welcome - ur attidude annoys me
[23:57] <EnemySpy> goodbye
[23:57] <Jyster> and what attitude is that? i hadnt said anything to anyone
[23:58] <EnemySpy> !op
[23:58] * cs-bot sets mode: +o EnemySpy
[23:58] * EnemySpy sets mode: +b *!*@cpc3-colc3-4-0-cust21.colc.cable.ntl.com
[23:58] <cs-bot> [csx] <<< Loading map: cs_arabstreets >>>
[23:58] * You were kicked by EnemySpy (Jyster)
[23:58] * Attempting to rejoin channel #axia
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Old 25-Sep-2004, 00:04   #2
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Old 25-Sep-2004, 00:05   #3
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Best not to think about it mate.
Some people are just internet-overlords who have a little bit of power and try to maximise it as much as possible.

Are there even cheats for cs:cz?
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Old 25-Sep-2004, 00:06   #4
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Old 25-Sep-2004, 00:10   #6
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banned mofo. Are they quite a big gsp ? Act like a crappy clan on the basis of that log.
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It was the only decent cs:cz server that I could find to play on, Could have a laugh on comms etc etc. They have 3 or 4 servers I think. Im not too sure.
Just very pissed of that they ban me for having a score of 11-0 and justify it by saying I wh and that when he looks up ip addresses if its a BY one then he nearly always bans for it. Mine was NTL.
Lol bans for having a BY address , I mean what a tard.
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Old 25-Sep-2004, 00:14   #8
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[23:56] <EnemySpy> it conflicts with axia policy

Axia policy being to ban anyone who can shoot straighter than EnemySpy btw :d

As a clan we've generally been banned, for either getting a positive score or making any sort of comments on the forum, so we've given up these days.

I think Hosierman puts it best in his cartoons

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Its weird ain't it, that the places who are total wankers seem to survive and the good ones die out. Feck em. Nobody is gonna change their little minds so don't waste your time trying mate.
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Unfortunately it's unexperienced and arrogant admins such as this fool who give all other admins this masked reputation of being corrupt.

He either needs to be trained to do the job of an admin properly or kicked out of the team so that someone with talent and skill can do the job correctly.

From that log and that log alone, the boy requires a swift kick up the arse as he does the reputation of the servers no good.
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Best not to think about it mate.
Some people are just internet-overlords who have a little bit of power and try to maximise it as much as possible.

Are there even cheats for cs:cz?
you would have said the same thing about me a year ago, without the slightest clue about what I was trying to achieve.

Having said that, a score of 11-0 being contrary to server policies .. sounds like a load of bollocks to me
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lol, gotta love those comic strips.

So this EnemySpy guy actually has a reputation across gaming websites / forums as a moron ?

He's on par with myg0t's reputation, that's not bad going, for an admin.
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Its because he isn't just an admin, its his server, so in theory, and infact practice, he can do whatever he likes

Plenty of other CZ servers out there, no need to play on axia, as you'll forever be waiting for the kick if you have a positive score or a BFTD tag
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Ah is it just a clan ? He can do what he wants then. If he pays for it, its his perogative to act like an arsehole. Just give it a wide berth.
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Its not a clan. Its a small collection of "community" servers where people can go to have some fun while playing CS or CS:CZ. Only it seems the guy who oversees the servers is a complete twat, and if you have a score of 11-0 or have a BY ip address it is spoiling his fun and he bans you for it.
I will give it a wide berth, well i will have to now anyway. This is just a little warning for anyone else out there that wants to play CS for a bit of fun because it may well conflict with axias idea of fun.
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he's not balanced really
he has his own place and his place of fun is where the standards aren't too high
if decent players come on they get upset, you have to be in the crowd I think to be good.
I didn't get banned because I worked the people, and I wasn't as good as Ant and Hucks that really annoyed them for being good.
the servers are okay, and they are Mat's/enemyspy's so he can do what he wants, and does. they're not admins as such, just mates who run a server for their other community mates.
still having said that, I'd ban you too jyster
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As I said, he doesnt just oversee the server, they are actually his, thats why he's a complete twat.

In the past he's run machines off his companies bandwidth, not sure what the situation is these days.

But as Celery says, avoid like the plague, unless you are a really really shite player
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Sounds like the old "gameon" servers that I got banned from under similar circumstances about 4 years ago
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I think the regulars make contributions now
probs a colo thing
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I think the regulars make contributions now
probs a colon thing

Oooooh! I say! :o
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[13:41:15] [huckan-DEAD] yo grim
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[13:47:09] [Gr1m] yo hucks
[13:48:05] » Gr1m slaps huckan around a bit with a large trout
[13:48:24] [huckan] yo
[13:48:30] [Gr1m] how goes?
[13:48:53] [huckan] just sorting pics out fro last night on me webby
[13:49:10] [Gr1m] ah ill have a look soon then
[13:49:13] [huckan]
[13:49:23] [Gr1m] u been a busy monkey last couple of days?
[13:49:30] [Gr1m] ir not seen ya about
[13:50:24] »» [j]oin> [Obi] [[email protected]]
[13:51:07] [huckan] been outski with my m8s
[13:51:14] [Obi] mornin kids
[13:51:15] [@EnemySpy] I just banned uM
[13:51:20] [Obi] why?
[13:51:20] [Dr_C] Wahey
[13:51:23] [Dr_C] Morning
[13:51:37] [@EnemySpy] I was watching him on hltv for the 1st few rounds and I think he was cheating
[13:51:51] [@EnemySpy] when he got to 16 - 3 he started playing normally again
[13:52:02] [Obi] mmm
[13:52:12] [Obi] demo by chance?
[13:52:23] [@EnemySpy] I did, but quit without stopping
[13:52:28] [huckan] i've done that many a time really, play really well till i notice i've got a good score then it al;ll goes to pants
[13:52:35] [@EnemySpy] I missed all the juicy stuff anyway
[13:52:47] [@EnemySpy] I saw him owning and joined with ogc onto the hltv
[13:53:04] [huckan] joined with ogc?
[13:53:25] [Obi] hltv proxy doesn't have any cheat prevention
[13:53:34] [@EnemySpy] I am not changing my mind on this one either
[13:53:43] [Obi] not gonna try and onvince you
[13:53:46] [Dr_C] Your server
[13:53:53] [Dr_C] We are guests
[13:54:19] [Chame1eon] whats the delay set to on ur hltv?
[13:54:43] [@EnemySpy] his 1st few rounds he owned. once he had a huge lead his play changed "ie. he no longer went around the corner at superspeed and took 3 people down with almost 2 shots each"
[13:55:07] [Dr_C] Did he pause behind a box before he got worse?
[13:55:19] [@EnemySpy] he did keep pausing
[13:55:21] [@EnemySpy] yes
[13:55:42] [Dr_C] I'm getting well sus of l33t players pausing behind boxes for no apparent reason
[13:56:00] [huckan] footstep
[13:56:01] [huckan] s
[13:56:10] [@EnemySpy] not at his own base
[13:56:12] [huckan] get a pair of headphones and u can hear someone running on the other side of the map
[13:56:23] [@EnemySpy] this was not stopping for footsteps
[13:56:38] [huckan] oh sorry, wasn't disputing that at all, was just in rply to drc
[13:56:39] [Obi] you walk if you want to listen for footsteps tbh
[13:56:40] [@EnemySpy] this was the 1st 30 seconds of the round on dust near the archway
[13:56:52] [huckan] depends on the situation when you hear them
[13:56:56] [@EnemySpy] he would be running with the group and then stop for no reason
[13:57:16] [@EnemySpy] and it was not to collect ammo as he was not in the buy area
[13:57:44] »» [j]oin> [M3LL0N] [[email protected]]
[13:57:54] [@EnemySpy] but, I am very suspicious of "l33t" players to. And I am making a stand that anyone who is too "good" will be banned
[13:58:14] [Dr_C] I have nothing to fear then
[13:58:15] [Dr_C] ; )
[13:58:23] [@EnemySpy]
[13:58:37] [Dr_C] I was 2-19 last night
[13:58:53] [Obi] rofl
[13:58:55] [huckan] what about the people that do shit on a couple of maps...then pwn on the map you watch them, not arguing, just wwondering, its a kinda fine line
[13:59:06] [Obi] what about me?
[13:59:11] [@EnemySpy] I have a hit list.
[13:59:17] [@EnemySpy] and I shall be watching
[13:59:22] [huckan] some days i'll wipe the server, other days i'll be shouting ffs at my moniter
[13:59:33] [Obi] ditto
[13:59:40] »» [n]ick> [M3LL0N] is now known as [A1KoN]
[13:59:41] [Dr_C] Obi, I set cmd_backup to 0
[13:59:44] [A1KoN] hello all
[13:59:46] [Dr_C] And I couldn't run
[13:59:48] [@EnemySpy] well, the days you are owning you may have me watching you
[13:59:55] [Obi] cl_cmdbackup
[14:00:02] [Dr_C] Yeah, that one
[14:00:05] [Obi] me or hux?
[14:00:08] [Dr_C] Setting it to 1 fixed it
[14:00:09] [huckan] BOTH
[14:00:10] [huckan]
[14:00:19] [@EnemySpy] and I believe I have been a server admin long enough to know when someone's gameplay is suspect or not
[14:00:31] [Dr_C] You don't look that old
[14:00:33] [@EnemySpy] if you are not cheating you have nothing to fear
[14:00:40] [Dr_C] Really, you carry your age well
[14:00:44] [@EnemySpy]
[14:00:52] [Dr_C] You could pass for 18
[14:01:11] [@EnemySpy] white flecks in the beard are fashionable for 18 year olds?
[14:01:19] [Dr_C] Yeah
[14:01:26] [Dr_C] So I've been told
[14:01:29] [@EnemySpy]
[14:01:33] [Dr_C] You should see Neil
[14:01:37] [Dr_C] _is_dead
[14:01:48] [Obi] unga aint posted on the forum yet
[14:01:57] [Dr_C] He's suddenly gone white
[14:02:12] [Liono] maybe he thinks he was auto-banned by the score script or something
[14:02:20] [Obi] he's still on csx tbh
[14:02:32] [@EnemySpy] yeh, I banned but didnt kick
[14:02:46] [huckan] lemme go break hte good news to him
[14:02:59] [Liono] ooooh.. will that mean at map change he'll be banned?
[14:03:01] [Liono] I mean
[14:03:04] [Liono] off the server..
[14:03:08] [Dr_C] Tell him to enjoy his last game
[14:03:26] [@EnemySpy] should have booted him on that map change...
[14:03:27] [@EnemySpy] odd
[14:04:18] [Dr_C] Is HAndsome Stranger someone we know fakenicking?
[14:04:22] [huckan] ES any chance of wwcl gracing the server sometime?
[14:04:39] [Obi] Hando\Jareth
[14:05:01] [Obi] i'm teh Gerber Baby atm
[14:05:03] [@EnemySpy] people hated it changing their config
[14:05:04] [@EnemySpy] me too
[14:05:11] [huckan] it doesn't now does it
[14:05:16] [@EnemySpy] don't know
[14:05:21] [huckan] just blocks the commands from your config, so the server doesn't read them
[14:05:21] [@EnemySpy] does it not?
[14:05:24] [huckan] i'm pretty sure it don't
[14:05:26] [Obi] never messes with mine
[14:05:29] [Dr_C] And Voodoo Lady/Ironside?
[14:05:34] [Obi] yup
[14:05:36] [Dr_C] Or is that an obvious one?
[14:06:28] [Obi] cd blocks interp now
[14:06:32] [Dr_C] Apparently not
[14:06:56] »» [j]oin> [eddr[lunchen]] [[email protected]]
[14:07:04] [Obi] ello edd
[14:07:04] [@EnemySpy] interp?
[14:07:12] »» [n]ick> [eddr[lunchen]] is now known as [eddr]
[14:07:14] [eddr] heya
[14:07:16] [Obi] ex_interp nasty little config setting
[14:07:18] [huckan] lots more commands bar interp
[14:07:22] [Dr_C] Fiddling with ex_interp allows you to see round corners
[14:07:42] [Obi] nope, makes players appear roound corners early
[14:07:50] [huckan] i've never nboticed anything like that with it really, just made things hit
[14:08:12] [@EnemySpy] so if they appear early... how do you know when to shoot?
[14:08:14] [huckan] used to have a config with 1000001 commands which made me hard to hit and it was easy to hit other people, kist it in a format tho
[14:08:17] [huckan] lost
[14:08:32] [huckan] EnemySpy it made them appear when they were tehre
[14:08:37] [@EnemySpy] always thought u were suspect huckan
[14:08:39] [Dr_C] They appear early, you start shooting, they walk into it
[14:08:41] [huckan] not allowing time for prediction to think they were there
[14:08:56] [huckan] nothing cheaty about my old config, it was jsut very french
[14:08:57] [huckan]
[14:09:03] [huckan] and it wasn't as good as i just made it
[14:09:13] [@EnemySpy] but you had an unfair advantage
[14:09:18] [huckan] when i was playing well them months back i was playing cs 13-14 hours a day
[14:09:19] [@EnemySpy] which is kinda cheating
[14:09:34] [huckan] no more than me using default interp on axia atm and other people not
[14:09:44] [Obi] then stick wwcl on to catch the sods
[14:09:52] [eddr] CD locks interp doesnt it
[14:09:56] [Obi] yup
[14:09:56] [huckan] if it goes below 0.05
[14:10:04] [huckan] i use 1 still
[14:10:16] [@EnemySpy] what is the default?
[14:10:18] [huckan] 1
[14:10:20] [Obi] left at default which is 0.1 i think
[14:11:13] [@EnemySpy] right, I am setting the 4 hour kick thing.
[14:11:29] [eddr] :o
[14:11:32] [Obi] whats the kill limit?
[14:11:41] [@EnemySpy] if someone has a positive difference of 20 between kills and deaths they get kicked
[14:11:46] [Dr_C] Sounds fair
[14:11:50] [Obi]
[14:11:55] [Dr_C] Will encourage teamplay
[14:11:56] [eddr] make sure they get echo'd a message before they're kicked :o
[14:12:30] [Obi] i don't see how having to die when your playing well is going to encourage temaplay tbh
[14:12:49] [Obi] but we'll see
[14:12:59] [@EnemySpy] its not just to encourage teamplay
[14:13:14] [@EnemySpy] its to reduce cheating by making cheating unprofitable
[14:14:21] [@EnemySpy] its going to be boring for a cheater to rack up 20 difference and not be able to kill anymore without dying 1st
[14:14:26] [Dr_C] I reckon we'll see more players standing behind boxes as their score gets near 20
[14:14:45] [@EnemySpy] either that, or they can find another server to own
[14:15:58] » Obi shrugs
[14:16:15] [@EnemySpy] if 20 is too much of a problem, I will raise it to 25
[14:16:31] [@EnemySpy] but the plugin will stay in 1 form or another
[14:16:42] [Dr_C] But how high before everyone elses game is ruined?
[14:16:49] [Dr_C] 22?
[14:17:02] [Dr_C] f'rinstance
[14:17:06] [@EnemySpy] indeed.
[14:17:13] [Dr_C] Last night hex was owning
[14:17:19] [@EnemySpy] it is for people owning the server round after round that it empties sometimes
[14:17:27] [Dr_C] So I just gave up
[14:17:36] [Dr_C] And I noticed everyone else did too
[14:17:51] [@EnemySpy] everyone does. they get bored when they keep getting owned
[14:18:04] [@EnemySpy] they want a game they have a chance of winning
[14:18:08] [Obi] thing is, you get a good map, it goes all the way to 10-10 you kill 2 people each round your banned
[14:18:29] [Dr_C] Not if you die every once in a while
[14:18:32] [@EnemySpy] u are missing the point obi
[14:18:33] »» [j]oin> [||Ems||] [[email protected]]
[14:18:41] [@EnemySpy] it is not if you score 20
[14:19:07] [Obi] no i know, but i'd get kicked for 33-7 correct?
[14:19:09] [@EnemySpy] it is if your kills is greater than your deaths by a difference of 20
[14:19:19] [Dr_C] Only for 4 hours
[14:19:21] [@EnemySpy] *is => are
[14:19:47] [@EnemySpy] Obi: yes - but you would have been kicked at 27 - 7
[14:19:56] [@EnemySpy] well, 28 - 7
[14:20:29] [Obi] spose i can tk to knock my score down
[14:20:37] [Dr_C] ; )
[14:20:46] [@EnemySpy] we'll see how it goes
[14:20:47] [Dr_C] I'll forgive
[14:20:52] [Dr_C] Honest
[14:21:01] [Obi] i'm an admin
[14:21:20] [@EnemySpy] 27 - 7 is an ok score (in my opinion)
[14:21:48] [Obi] i think it should be 30, rarely do we have players who own that hard
[14:21:58] [Dr_C] hex
[14:22:02] [@EnemySpy] 30 is too high
[14:22:02] [Dr_C] With regularity
[14:22:14] [@EnemySpy] I think Cs suggestion of 22 is ok
[14:22:26] [@EnemySpy] then 30 - 7 would be the limit
[14:22:33] [Dr_C] Might even encourage a bit less camping
[14:22:37] [@EnemySpy] which in my opinion is borderline suspect
[14:23:03] [@EnemySpy] so, I will make it 22
[14:23:18] [@EnemySpy] so a difference of >22 will get u banned for 240 mins
[14:23:42] [Dr_C] See how it works for a week
[14:24:00] [Dr_C] If loads of peeps get boted then review
[14:24:03] [Dr_C] *booted
[14:24:09] [@EnemySpy] set to 22 now
[14:24:11] [Dr_C] And it's only 4 hours
[14:24:21] [Dr_C] It's not a lifetime
[14:25:19] [Dr_C] I notice someone's put £18 in the paypal acct
[14:25:32] [Obi] rm methinks
[14:25:46] [Dr_C] It's an odd figure
[14:26:07] [@EnemySpy] and... if I get my daily parser to email the admin list about bans and things, we can keep a better eye on it
[14:26:15] [Obi] just some money he makes off adlists and stuff
[14:26:21] [@EnemySpy] but the script will take about 4 days to write
[14:26:27] [Dr_C] Ouch
[14:26:34] [Dr_C] And another 4 to debug?
[14:26:42] [@EnemySpy] that was including debugging
[14:26:43] [@EnemySpy]
[14:26:57] [Dr_C] = )
[14:27:02] [@EnemySpy] and building the motivation to repeat myself
[14:27:09] [@EnemySpy] hopefully without deleting it this time
[14:27:35] [Dr_C] If it makes you feel any better I locked myself out of my firewall
[14:27:40] [@EnemySpy] lol
[14:27:46] [Dr_C] Had to re-attach the console
[14:27:52] [@EnemySpy] what firewall u got?
[14:28:04] [Dr_C] OpenBSD on a sparc5
[14:28:07] [@EnemySpy] ahhh
[14:28:15] [Dr_C] Was building anew one on a Sparc Classic
[14:28:21] [@EnemySpy] im using a netscreen and is annoying.
[14:28:29] » Obi throws a bucket of ICE water over the toilet stall door and hits ||Ems||!
[14:28:48] [@EnemySpy] rather than keeping ssh open, it keeps timing the connections out if there is no activity
[14:29:13] [Dr_C] Hmm, add a keepalive ping?
[14:29:52] [@EnemySpy] aye. but still annoying
[14:30:03] [Dr_C] Their webby is full of management speak
[14:30:18] [Dr_C] Which model?
[14:30:23] [@EnemySpy] netscreen 10
[14:30:35] [@EnemySpy] its an older one in battleship grey
[14:31:18] [@EnemySpy] as firewalls go, I think a BSD machine beats it
[14:31:22] [Dr_C] Is it just a rackmount box with a tweaked version of FreeBSD
[14:31:38] [Dr_C] I concur, but only if you know what you're doing
[14:31:51] [Dr_C] And I can't keep up with all the add-ons to pf
[14:32:14] [@EnemySpy] it is a unix clone of some kind. but it is a 1u profile and possibly mips architecture
[14:32:25] [Dr_C] Ohh
[14:32:28] [@EnemySpy] but wouldn't swear to know the CPU
[14:32:37] [@EnemySpy] a search would probably tell me
[14:32:39] [Dr_C] Have you not opened it up for a look?
[14:32:51] [@EnemySpy] aye, just 1 circuit board
[14:33:06] [@EnemySpy] ages ago, and didnt look at the cpu
[14:33:06] [Dr_C] Ohh, found apiccy, very pretty
[14:33:49] [Dr_C] 'Can be remotely configured via snmp'
[14:33:54] [Dr_C] Is that a feature?
[14:33:57] » ||Ems|| dries self off and shivers
[14:34:00] [Dr_C] Or a vuln
[14:34:04] [@EnemySpy] lolk
[14:34:37] [@EnemySpy] there is a lot of bugs (well, I call them bugs) in its implementation of things
[14:35:02] [@EnemySpy] can't think of any off hand, but there has been a few things I have wanted to do which it would not let me
[14:35:08] [@EnemySpy] ahhh, here is 1
[14:35:17] [@EnemySpy] if the firewall is set to transparent
[14:35:39] [@EnemySpy] you can still give the internal interface an IP for management
[14:35:57] [@EnemySpy] but if you try and send stuff to a loghost, it does not work
[14:36:14] [Dr_C] Odd
[14:36:20] [@EnemySpy] you can only send stuff to a loghost if you dont use transparency
[14:36:30] [@EnemySpy] not odd, bloody annoying
[14:36:32] [@EnemySpy]
[14:36:33] [Dr_C] Transparency == Bridge mode
[14:37:13] [@EnemySpy] not a bridge as such. bridges connect one network to another
[14:37:19] [Dr_C] ie. No IP address for the interfaces, just bi-directional NAT
[14:37:24] [@EnemySpy] not NAT
[14:37:30] [@EnemySpy] transparent
[14:38:01] [Dr_C] Ah, K
[14:38:09] [Dr_C] I think you can do that on Open
[14:38:16] [@EnemySpy] the external interface connects to a router/switch which has the same network address as the machines connected to theinternal interfaces
[14:38:25] [Dr_C] YEah
[14:38:31] [Dr_C] That's what I was thinking of
[14:38:51] [Dr_C] You can do it under open
[14:38:53] [@EnemySpy] network address = IP range
[14:39:03] [@EnemySpy]
[14:39:14] [Dr_C] But you need to add a 3rd nic or keep the console attached
[14:39:21] [Dr_C] Or you won't be able to getin
[14:39:57] [@EnemySpy] you should be able to set an IP on the internal interface and still use transparency without the need for a 3rd card
[14:39:58] [Dr_C] Dunno why the netscreen won't log properly though
[14:40:32] [@EnemySpy] for info. I even tried transparency and setting an IP on the DMZ interface and still no joy
[14:40:45] [Dr_C] I was going to suggest that
[14:40:58] [@EnemySpy] think I tried several combinations without success
[14:41:19] [Dr_C] That's why your beard has gone white
[14:41:29] [@EnemySpy] that and the cs server
[14:41:38] [Dr_C] Dude, I know how you feel
[14:41:51] [Dr_C] I was so pissed off by the time I logged off last night
[14:42:01] [Dr_C] I couldn't get to sleep until 6am
[14:42:01] »» [j]oin> [Snowjob] [[email protected]]
[14:42:12] [@EnemySpy] where's boovy when you need him. he would know how to get the cpu info
[14:42:15] [Chame1eon] 80.180.223.170 port 21 / user guest / password access
[14:42:19] [Chame1eon] somone test it for me plz
[14:42:21] [Chame1eon] my ftp
[14:42:26] [Chame1eon] and u can grab some music if u want
[14:42:41] [Dr_C] Just leave it up for a while, you'll get loads of peeps trying to 'test' it
[14:42:55] [@EnemySpy] I can find it is a RISC processor (which suggests to me mips)
[14:43:11] [Dr_C] Probably
[14:43:50] [Dr_C] You and your Alpha fetish
[14:43:52] »» [n]ick> [Hose^cs] is now known as [Hosierman]
[14:44:04] [@EnemySpy] its a powerPC
[14:44:07] »» [n]ick> [Dr_C] is now known as [Dr_C|phone]
[14:44:09] [@EnemySpy] processor
[14:49:58] [@EnemySpy] I remembered. the other day we had that conv about machines. I have dual alpha 600 in bits too
[14:54:15] »» [q]uit> [Obi] [[email protected]] [Read error: EOF from client]
[14:55:19] »» [j]oin> [Obi] [[email protected]]
[14:56:20] [@EnemySpy] Hosierman: why did you post that on the forum?
[14:56:25] [@EnemySpy] inaccurately too
[14:56:32] [Hosierman] ?
[14:56:42] [@EnemySpy] the auto kick
[14:56:44] [Hosierman] whats innacurate about it?
[14:57:06] »» [q]uit> [A1KoN] [[email protected]] [Ping timeout]
[14:57:58] [eddr] if you dont like it play on other servers :o
[14:58:03] [eddr] or just pretend to be crap
[14:58:28] [@EnemySpy] I have replied to your post
[14:58:42] [@EnemySpy] seeing as irc was obviously too much of a burden for you
[14:59:46] [Hosierman] if you noticed look...
[14:59:52] [Hosierman] [14:44] * Hose^cs has returned from playing Half-Life...
[14:59:52] [Hosierman] [14:44] *** Hose^cs is now known as Hosierman
[14:59:59] [Hosierman] i just got back from a game
[15:00:15] [Hosierman] so have not read any of the stuff in this channel
[15:01:21] [Dr_C|phone] Scroll up
[15:01:28] »» [n]ick> [Dr_C|phone] is now known as [Dr_C]
[15:01:53] [Hosierman] how far back was it?
[15:02:02] [Dr_C] Scroll bitch
[15:02:30] [@EnemySpy] lol
[15:02:52] [Hosierman] hope got kicked for having 24 - 3
[15:02:52] [Dr_C] Sorry Paul
[15:03:03] »» [n]ick> [Dr_C] is now known as [Dr_C|food]
[15:03:08] [Obi] 26-3 he got kicked at
[15:03:26] [Hosierman] u sure?
[15:03:34] [Hosierman] cos he was at 24-3 when i looked
[15:03:42] [Hosierman] then round ended and he was kicked
[15:03:48] [Obi] was watching and waiting for it to happen
[15:03:56] [Hosierman] so was i
[15:03:59] [Hosierman]
[15:05:23] »» [j]oin> [Mortis] [[email protected]]
[15:05:32] [Hosierman] ok so if its at 22 now its still not high enough
[15:06:03] [@EnemySpy] we'll see
[15:06:17] [Snowjob] Moving that player to opposing team instead of banning is a better plan imo
[15:06:25] [Obi] i'll wait untill i get banned
[15:06:25] »» [p]art> [Mortis] [[email protected]]
[15:06:25] [Hosierman] and the banning is far too harsh
[15:06:48] [Liono] the guy who was kicked wasnt owning everyone though.. he was just killing a couple of people a round and not dying..
[15:06:59] [Hosierman] the 3 ppl i mentioned on militia where unga, blackheart billy and some other dude
[15:07:06] [Hosierman] yer that was my point liono
[15:07:11] [@EnemySpy] seems to have banned him at 23 - 5
[15:07:15] [@EnemySpy] which is wrong
[15:07:17] [Hosierman] the Ct's pplayed really well and 1 guy got banned
[15:07:38] [@EnemySpy] so it would suggest it is broken
[15:07:46] » Obi slaps ||Ems|| with a gallon of hot fudge covered icecream topped with peanutbutter M&M's, runs over with a spoon and gives a devilish gleam.
[15:07:47] [Hosierman] its different if he was on 30 -3 and the next player was on 2 - 8
[15:07:50] [Hosierman] or something
[15:08:01] [||Ems||] oooh i taste and smell good, yay
[15:08:18] [@EnemySpy] there is a bug
[15:08:23] [@EnemySpy] there is a bug <-!
[15:08:31] [@EnemySpy] jeez. get off my case
[15:08:36] » eddr patches EnemySpy up with a band-aid (:::::[::::]::::, "Now you be carefull next time"
[15:09:41] [@EnemySpy] ahh, hold on
[15:09:59] [Hosierman] not trying to have a go ES its just wrong is all
[15:10:03] [@EnemySpy] that was before I enabled it so it was set at 15
[15:10:16] [@EnemySpy] looks like hope might have been the victim
[15:10:34] [@EnemySpy] 26 - 3
[15:10:49] [@EnemySpy] difference of >22 works for me
[15:11:00] [@EnemySpy] sir_paco too
[15:11:05] [Hosierman] yer but change the punishment
[15:11:14] [@EnemySpy] difference of 26 - 1
[15:11:14] [Hosierman] to team swap
[15:11:19] [@EnemySpy] no
[15:11:33] [@EnemySpy] I dont want "l33t" players
[15:11:47] [Hosierman] but hope wasnt133t
[15:11:53] [Hosierman] im not 133t
[15:11:57] [Hosierman] obi isnt 133t
[15:12:04] [Hosierman] yet we will all be banned
[15:12:20] [Hosierman] if we auto onto an easy side of a map
[15:12:29] [eddr] and free to go on 1000000 other servers
[15:12:36] [Liono] oh edd thats not the point
[15:12:45] [@EnemySpy] you could make your requests more palatable by changing your approach
[15:12:58] [eddr] just trying to stick up for matt, i know he's just trying to please us :o
[15:13:01] [@EnemySpy] giving orders and writing shite posts on the forum piss me off
[15:13:07] [Hosierman] eddr cos your in no danger from the script so plz stfu
[15:13:15] [eddr] um
[15:13:19] [eddr] no ?
[15:13:27] [Hosierman] if there was an anoying twat script you'd be first one in here moaning
[15:13:41] [eddr] !ban Hosierman byebye
[15:13:41] »» [m]ode> [[ebot]] sets [+b *[email protected]]
[15:13:41] »» [T]his [*[email protected]] ban affects [Hosierman]
[15:13:41] »» [k]ick> [Hosierman] was kicked by [[ebot]] [Banned]
[15:13:53] [@EnemySpy] thank you
[15:13:54] [eddr] dont object to that do you matt ?
[15:14:00] [@EnemySpy] was just about to do it myself
[15:14:03] [eddr]
[15:14:56] [@EnemySpy] removed the thread on the forum too
[15:15:07] [eddr] unless a miracle happens the script wont affect me, but even still its true about people owning people again and again and it does get borring
[15:15:31] [eddr] especially with awps
[15:15:32] [@EnemySpy] but as the plugin had caught 2 people already, I have raised it to 24 and will lower it (or raise) it again as required
[15:16:55] [@EnemySpy] just banned him on the cs server too
[15:17:41] [Liono] lol whats the point of that?
[15:17:59] [@EnemySpy] because he pissed me off and because I can...
[15:18:10] [@EnemySpy] you have a problem with that?
[15:18:42] [Liono] well.. I would think so.. bit poor play really.
[15:19:04] [@EnemySpy] so, it is ok for people to come on here and tell people to stfu?
[15:19:28] [@EnemySpy] it is alright for him to have the attitude he did on my forum trying to stir up a fuss about the plugin?
[15:19:28] [Liono] I'm sure we can find enough occasions of edd doing it.. it wasnt directed at you.
[15:20:31] [Liono] and to be fair the forums are where a lot of the discussions take place.. maybe he didnt phrase it right... but it should be up there..
[15:20:36] [Liono] in some form
[15:21:44] [@EnemySpy] and why not check on here 1st?
[15:22:16] »» [n]ick> [Dr_C|food] is now known as [Dr_C]
[15:22:24] [@EnemySpy] well, banned from the forum too now.
[15:22:25] [Liono] I wouldnt speak for him.. but probably because he just came off the server.. it was fresh in his head.. and he wanted to post while it was..
[15:23:02] [Dr_C] Perhaps he should have ataken a few breaths before posting then
[15:23:13] [Liono] maybe so.. but he didnt..
[15:23:23] [Dr_C] And thus he gets his reward
[15:23:32] [Liono] you know how it is.. and it wasnt even particualry rude as a post.. just forward and agressive
[15:23:40] [Liono] not rude.. but forthright
[15:24:43] »» [q]uit> [sPiKe^-] [[email protected]] [Ping timeout]
[15:24:54] [Dr_C] Perhaps he can spend the time he is banned meditating on being 'forthright'
[15:25:02] [Liono] good one.
[15:25:19] [Liono] no point going off on one at me..
[15:25:40] [Dr_C] Am I?
[15:25:53] [Liono] apparantly so.
[15:26:18] [Dr_C] 2 perhaps's and a logical conclusion
[15:27:10] [Dr_C] Ok, I am
[15:27:17] [@EnemySpy] you are?
[15:27:57] [Dr_C] Fuck you and the whole BFTD clan
[15:28:07] [Dr_C] There, happier?
[15:28:21] [Gr1m] hmm that reasonable attitude
[15:28:24] [RM] that include maddy..?
[15:28:31] [Dr_C] Nope
[15:29:00] [RM] oooh, wimbledon starts tomorrow. hurrah!
[15:29:11] [RM] lets see how quick henman gets knocked out
[15:29:17] [@EnemySpy] oh, look. Big D is about to post something
[15:30:08] [@EnemySpy] wimbledon: that means rain for the next few weeks
[15:30:11] [@EnemySpy]
[15:30:16] [Dr_C] The garden needs it
[15:30:24] [Dr_C] My lawn is going a bit brown
[15:30:34] [@EnemySpy] ur growing the wrong grass
[15:31:58] »» [j]oin> [T-Bag|arg] [[email protected]]
[15:32:07] [Dr_C] I know
[15:32:09] [@EnemySpy] now this is a much nicer response
[15:32:11] [@EnemySpy] Hello. I think this is the e-mail to ask for unbanning from Axia 2. I'm not
[15:32:11] [@EnemySpy] sure why I was banned. I played yesterday without any problems.. and I
[15:32:11] [@EnemySpy] hadn't done anything. Then I try to log on today and it says I'm banned.
[15:32:21] [@EnemySpy] I don't use cheats... I did have 2 TK's over the past week. I'm not sure if
[15:32:22] [@EnemySpy] that has anything to do with it? I used to play on Axia a lot without any
[15:32:22] [@EnemySpy] problems... then I took a break for a few months.
[15:32:30] [@EnemySpy] My name is Sir_Paco. I'm not sure how to find my Won ID though.
[15:32:43] [Dr_C] That's reasonable
[15:32:45] »» [j]oin> [sPiKe^-] [[email protected]]
[15:32:50] [@EnemySpy] so I removed the temp ban and he can now play again
[15:33:03] [@EnemySpy] he was one of the ones banned by the plugin
[15:33:10] [Dr_C] Get more flies with honey...
[15:34:24] »» [p]art> [T-Bag|arg] [[email protected]]
[15:35:32] [@EnemySpy] I am off to play some blitzkreig
[15:35:45] [eddr] whats that :o
[15:35:52] [Dr_C] bf1942?
[15:36:23] [@EnemySpy] hold on
[15:36:52] [@EnemySpy] http://www.blitzkrieg.de/english/index0.htm
[15:37:31] [Dr_C] Ohh pretty
[15:37:31] [eddr] ahs
[15:37:39] [Dr_C] I can't get enough tank action
[15:37:45] [@EnemySpy] I like my strategy games
[15:37:53] [Chame1eon] blitz is good
[15:38:00] [Chame1eon] and im not too keen on strat games
[15:38:03] [@EnemySpy] I bought enigma too
[15:38:06] [Chame1eon] tend to get rather badly raped at them
[15:38:11] [@EnemySpy] which is a naval strategy
[15:38:30] [Chame1eon] i played tillerman at wc3 and he beat me in about 5 mins
[15:38:30] [Chame1eon] :/
[15:38:36] [@EnemySpy]
[15:38:55] [Dr_C] Do you have to decipher encrypted messages and then re-route your convoys?
[15:39:03] [Chame1eon] but when i did 2v1 with me ans shaq we both lasted 15 minutes
[15:39:20] [@EnemySpy] Dr_C: no
[15:39:26] [Dr_C] 'Cause I've got an enigma cracker proggie somewhere
[15:39:32] [@EnemySpy] but it is very playable 3D real time naval sim
[15:39:39] [Dr_C] They keyspace is relatively small
[15:39:42] [@EnemySpy] I reccommend you get the demo
[15:39:43] [Dr_C] Oh
[15:39:45] [Dr_C] Ok
[15:40:41] [@EnemySpy] just getting the patch for blitzkreig as there are a few niggly things wrong with it
[15:40:58] [Dr_C] Go drop some depth charges for me
[15:41:19] [Dr_C] Man that looks sweet
[15:41:46] [Dr_C] Das Boot is one of my all time favourite films
[15:42:15] [eddr] whats das boot ?
[15:42:16] [@EnemySpy] aye, I have that
[15:42:55] [Dr_C] It's a film about the submarine war in WWII
[15:43:01] [Dr_C] It's in German
[15:43:07] [Dr_C] It's very depressing
[15:43:11] [Dr_C] It roxxors
[15:43:24] [eddr] ah right
[15:44:03] [Dr_C] The music is class
[15:48:40] [@EnemySpy] right. idle for a while
[15:48:46] [eddr] rogers
[15:49:00] [Dr_C] I've been idle all my life
[15:49:05] [Dr_C] And I'm not about to change
[15:49:15] [eddr] lol
[15:49:21] [eddr] thats the way
[15:49:25] »» [j]oin> [Hots|afk] [[email protected]]
[15:49:31] »» [j]oin> [maddy|cs] [[email protected]]
[15:50:36] [Dr_C] It's teh Jojo
[15:50:40] » Dr_C hugs
[15:51:05] »» [n]ick> [maddy|cs] is now known as [madbird]
[15:51:24] » madbird hugs
[15:51:38] [eddr] heya jojo
[15:52:52] [madbird] hey edd and C
[15:52:55] [madbird]
[15:52:58] [Dr_C] Hello
[15:52:59] [eddr] how are you?
[15:53:04] [madbird] knackered mate
[15:53:10] [madbird] even though pete did all the driving
[15:53:24] [eddr] ahs
[15:53:49] [Dr_C] Where d'ya go?
[15:54:48] »» [p]art> [huckan] [[email protected]]
[15:55:01] [madbird] bolton
[15:55:05] [eddr] buhbye huckan
[15:55:14] »» [p]art> [Obi] [[email protected]]
[15:55:17] [Dr_C] To see his 'rents?
[15:55:30] [eddr] bye obi :o
[15:55:34] [eddr] where they goin :s
[15:55:40] [Dr_C] To slag us
[15:55:46] »» [j]oin> [Vass|cs] [[email protected]]
[15:55:49] [eddr] probably,l they're still connected
[15:55:57] [eddr] just parted this room, and both in bftd
[15:56:01] [Dr_C] I don't think my 'Fuck you all' comment went down well
[15:56:03] »» [n]ick> [Vass|cs] is now known as [|Vassili|]
[15:56:05] [eddr] lo vass
[15:56:07] [madbird] obi been idling in bftd for months....
[15:56:10] [|Vassili|] ello
[15:56:57] » |Vassili| slaps ||Ems|| around a bit with a large trout
[15:58:01] [|Vassili|] grrr cant find a good site for GBA roms
[15:58:18] [Dr_C] Try Kazaa
[15:58:39] [|Vassili|] oh yeah...
[15:58:46] [|Vassili|] dint think of that cheers c
[15:59:11] [Dr_C] That's what I'm here for; to act as your brain
[16:01:19] » @[ebot] reminds you that IRC stats are @ http://www.axia.org.uk/irc/
[16:01:46] » |Vassili| pours water on [ebot]
[16:03:09] »» [j]oin> [Obi] [[email protected]]
[16:03:18] [Dr_C] wb
[16:03:23] [Obi] pff
[16:03:42] [Dr_C] What, you dont want a shag?
[16:04:06] [Obi] not off you hunny, sorry
[16:04:40] [Dr_C] np
[16:04:52] [Obi] can we still be friends?
[16:04:56] [Obi]
[16:04:58] [Dr_C] Yep
[16:05:21] [Obi] this autoban thing is gonna seriously suck ass
[16:05:36] [|Vassili|] what auto ban thing?
[16:05:45] » Obi gives |Vassili| a dozen GoldFish, who then takes them and swallows them, one by one.
[16:05:49] [Snowjob] German roads
[16:05:52] [Dr_C] PLay for a while, get booted, play somewhere else for 4 hours, return
[16:06:35] [Obi] no think long term, after a while no-one will come back, then the not so good players will own the bad players and get banned, then they'll move on
[16:06:42] » |Vassili| thinks that sounds gay
[16:07:03] [Dr_C] Axia as a cs school
[16:07:15] [Dr_C] Improving the quality of play on the net as a whole
[16:07:21] [Dr_C] What's so bad about that
[16:07:41] [Obi] not really, its just gonna wittle down the competition on server
[16:07:54] [|Vassili|] people not really having a 'home' server anymore
[16:07:55] [madbird] i have to say i strongly disagree with the auto ban as well
[16:08:04] [madbird] sorry but i do
[16:08:05] [Dr_C] It's only 4 hours
[16:08:08] [Liono] it'll be like the UK2 beginner servers.. where whole clans of good players bundle onto them to see who can get banned first..
[16:08:09] [madbird] not the point
[16:08:10] [Liono] whats the point of that
[16:08:25] [madbird] the point is the message it puts across which is that good players are not welcome
[16:08:27] [Dr_C] I dunno, I've never been in a clan like that
[16:08:31] [madbird] and will be treated like cheats
[16:08:47] [Obi] maddy check pm
[16:08:47] [Dr_C] No, good players are welcome, provided they don't make the game dull as fuck for everyone else
[16:08:52] [Dr_C] Including the n00bs
[16:09:03] [madbird] i have obi
[16:09:03] » eddr coughs |Vassili|
[16:09:07] [madbird] was waiting for the rest tbh
[16:09:22] [Obi] you want more?
[16:09:22] [madbird] C - that isnt the message it puts across
[16:09:29] [madbird] and i was gutted to be banned by the server
[16:09:33] [madbird] and also to not be unbanned
[16:09:35] »» [j]oin> [Mortis] [[email protected]]
[16:09:51] [|Vassili|] is the autoban inplace now?
[16:09:52] [Dr_C] It's only 4 hours
[16:10:04] [Snowjob] lol
[16:10:05] [madbird] im not sure i want to play on a server where i either have to check my score every round to make sure im not doing too well, or alternatively be made to looka prat and get banned if i do
[16:10:21] [madbird] and the irony of having stats on a server with that script on...
[16:10:25] [Snowjob] well put maddy
[16:10:33] [Gr1m] pld mads
[16:10:43] [Dr_C] Imagine how it feels to be a n00b and get 0wned constantly
[16:10:54] [madbird] i do not want to fight with anyone or disagree with anyone but that much has to be said
[16:11:03] [madbird] there are n00b servers for new people
[16:11:08] [Dr_C] It's a balance between attracting n00bs and attracting clanned up players
[16:11:09] [Obi] n00bs aint gonna get better if all the good players keep getting banned
[16:11:10] [Snowjob] instead of banning just move player to other team is a damn good idea
[16:11:14] [madbird] and the best way to improve is to play people who are better than you are
[16:11:35] [Dr_C] Only up to a point
[16:11:41] [|Vassili|] <Dr_C> Imagine how it feels to be a n00b and get 0wned constantly <---- feels good when you kill the people who own you
[16:11:43] [Dr_C] Instant hs's make it hard to learn anythig
[16:11:50] [Obi] thank you vasilli
[16:11:55] [madbird] then axia will lose a lot of good players
[16:11:58] [madbird] and friends of axia
[16:12:03] [Dr_C] And they will be replaced
[16:12:09] [Obi] by?
[16:12:10] [Snowjob] jiises
[16:12:11] [madbird] and that saddens me
[16:12:24] [madbird] nice to know i am so easily replaced
[16:12:29] [Obi] ditto
[16:12:37] [madbird] and that peopel would rather have a good own than play with me on server
[16:12:44] [madbird] i won't play where i'm not wanted
[16:13:01] [madbird] and that makes it quite clear that i am not
[16:13:05] [Dr_C] Not at all
[16:13:09] [madbird] yes it does
[16:13:14] [madbird] that is exactly what it says
[16:13:18] »» [n]ick> [Chame1eon] is now known as [Chame^CS]
[16:13:52] [Dr_C] Read into it what you want
[16:14:01] [Dr_C] The ratio can be tweaked
[16:14:07] [Snowjob] well that´s how I see it aswell
[16:14:21] [Dr_C] I'm sticking up for the n00bs here, I notice I'm alone in doing so
[16:14:37] »» [n]ick> [Chame^CS] is now known as [Chame1eon]
[16:14:48] [Snowjob] average and good players aint welcome... and if you don´t like get banned or leave..others will replace you!
[16:14:54] [Dr_C] try and think of others besides your clanned up m8's
[16:15:20] [Obi] I am, I'm thinking of the 70 or so players already capable of owning me and others on the server
[16:15:51] [|Vassili|] axia has a good base of regulars, if you wanna learn how to play cs, go to uk2.net
[16:16:05] [eddr] no vass
[16:16:07] [Dr_C] So, essentially, Axia is for the leet and the n00bs are just cannon fodder?
[16:16:08] [eddr] thats exactly where you dont go
[16:16:26] [|Vassili|] where i went originally
[16:16:32] [eddr] no wonder your shite
[16:16:33] [eddr]
[16:16:45] » eddr hides
[16:16:46] [|Vassili|] :p
[16:17:04] [|Vassili|] brb food time
[16:17:10] »» [n]ick> [|Vassili|] is now known as [Vass|eatin]
[16:18:20] [Obi] no, C, look at it, Hammer, Me, Morits, Ask, boov, maddy, Jim, Kobi, Tnt, Plt, Snowy, its not like we've just appeared out of nowhere, we've improved on server, the base of players hasn't changed much in the past year so is it fair that those of us that have improved in response to the better players on server should be banned, let alone the newer players
[16:19:15] [Obi] if its kept in a while you'll be left with only the n00bs imo
[16:19:16] »» [q]uit> [Hots|afk] [[email protected]] [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
[16:19:24] [Gr1m] agreed
[16:19:29] [Dr_C] Perhaps we should all give it a go?
[16:19:30] [Liono] and I enjoy it too
[16:19:39] [Dr_C] Instead of predicting the future
[16:20:21] »» [j]oin> [Hots|afk] [[email protected]]
[16:20:34] [Snowjob] you dont have to try this out to know it´s gonna fail if people are fed up with it this early on.
[16:20:54] [Dr_C] The only peeps complaining are the ones in danger of getting banned
[16:20:59] [Dr_C] Which is hardly surprising
[16:21:09] [Dr_C] God forbid you should have to play somewhere else
[16:21:17] [Liono] god forbid noobs should have to too?
[16:21:18] [Snowjob] wel that´s just sad
[16:21:20] [madbird] i always have played elsewhere
[16:21:37] [madbird] i will play on axia until i am banned
[16:21:43] [madbird] then i will go find somewhere else to play
[16:21:57] [madbird] let's hope i have so much fun i don't miss any of my friends at all
[16:21:57] [Snowjob] why is it so hard to change the banning to change team instead?
[16:22:12] [Dr_C] Show us some code snowy
[16:22:32] [Liono] what?
[16:22:34] [Snowjob] I don´t have a fucking clue how to code C...but I´m sure it can be done
[16:22:43] »» [p]art> [madbird] [[email protected]]
[16:22:47] [Dr_C] I hear a lot of talk about how it should be changed
[16:22:50] [Liono] oh give over trying to pick up the small victories and try and see the picture
[16:23:09] [Dr_C] I don't see anyone providing resources to help fix it
[16:23:31] [Snowjob] If people could they mort def. would
[16:23:32] [Liono] think about this situation. All the currently "good" players get banned.. that leaves a new levels of good players.. soon they too are banned
[16:23:41] [Liono] eventually you will be the BEST player.. then you will be banned
[16:23:44] [Liono] happy with that too?
[16:23:49] [Snowjob] lol
[16:24:02] [Dr_C] Yep
[16:24:11] [Liono] then you are truly sad
[16:24:29] »» [n]ick> [Chame1eon] is now known as [Chame^CS]
[16:25:37] [Dr_C] So, you're all pissed that you'll have to find a new home
[16:25:50] [Dr_C] Cry me a fucking river
[16:25:54] [Liono] no.. we're pissed because we shouldnt have to.
[16:26:05] [Dr_C] No/
[16:26:09] [Liono] yes
[16:26:11] [Dr_C] How much you pay Liono?
[16:26:13] [Liono] no matter how you put it
[16:26:19] [Obi] its funny, i've always seen axia as more of a community, this script is going to ostracise part of that community
[16:26:19] [Liono] I think I donated actually
[16:26:24] [Liono] how much you pay?
[16:26:27] [Dr_C] £50
[16:26:32] [Dr_C] And hardware
[16:26:45] [Liono] well as you put it.. "cry me a fucking river" when its not being used anymore
[16:27:23] [Dr_C] OMG, the world will end if the BFTD boys have to find somewhere else to play
[16:27:34] [eddr] !op
[16:27:34] »» [m]ode> [[ebot]] sets [+o eddr]
[16:27:37] »» [m]ode> [eddr] sets [+m]
[16:27:40] [@eddr] right
[16:27:54] [@eddr] you can all stop moaning, im not getting involved in this but stop moaning
[16:27:57] »» [j]oin> [BigD`] [[email protected]]
[16:28:30] »» [p]art> [Obi] [[email protected]]
[16:28:33] [@eddr] its obvious this is upsetting alot of people so if you all just wait until matt gets back and see what he has to say, its his server, maybe he'll change his mind maybe he wont
[16:28:58] [@eddr] so change the subject or just idle.... dont get pissed at a screen
[16:29:01] »» [m]ode> [eddr] sets [-m]
[16:29:02] [@eddr] ty
[16:30:20] [Dr_C] I was almost enjoying that
[16:31:07] [Liono] and that is what happens if you use IRC instead of the forum.
[16:32:04] [Dr_C] You mean less considered responses?
[16:32:19] [Liono] shut up now C.. theres a good fella. listen to the edd man.
[16:32:19] [Dr_C] More bitching?
[16:32:30] [Dr_C] He'll kick me if he feels the need
[16:32:33] »» [n]ick> [Chame^CS] is now known as [Chame1eon]
[16:35:06] »» [n]ick> [Chame1eon] is now known as [Chame^CS]
[16:37:37] [imp`oNe] if i may be so bold as to say: #team.imperium
[16:37:51] [imp`oNe] being axia regulars i will voice ya if thats any incentive :/
[16:39:45] »» [n]ick> [Vass|eatin] is now known as [|Vassili|]
[16:40:42] [@EnemySpy] tuff shit people. the plugin stays. if people dont like it, they can vote with their feet
[16:41:13] »» [q]uit> [Chame^CS] [[email protected]] [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
[16:41:17] [@EnemySpy] frankly, I would be glad to see the back of lots of these "good" players
[16:41:34] [@EnemySpy] as apposed to the genuine good players
[16:41:50] [BigD`] how do u tell the difference?
[16:42:14] [|Vassili|] what about the people who are in the chatrooms and forums? who just play here for a good time and have friends here
[16:42:18] »» [j]oin> [ph|kash] [[email protected]]
[16:43:00] [@EnemySpy] BigD - I don't. if anyone has frag difference of greater than (24 at the moment) they get kicked for 4 hours
[16:43:06] [@EnemySpy] I sit back and do nothing
[16:43:23] [Gr1m] sounds very logical
[16:43:24] »» [p]art> [Gr1m] [[email protected]]
[16:43:48] [BigD`] fair enough with that plugin, but surely that will get rid of all the good and "good" players who wont want to come back, leaving poorer players, who wont be the same level, meaning some of them will be kicked, leave, etc etc
[16:44:04] [ph|kash] es just wonderin m8
[16:44:08] [ph|kash] gona stay as 24?
[16:44:21] [ph|kash] :o
[16:44:26] [@EnemySpy] so fucking what. I am fed up of lame tossers joining the servers and raping...
[16:44:35] [Dr_C] Indeed
[16:44:44] [Liono] sob
[16:44:49] [@EnemySpy] the players get pissed off with being "owned" and the server empties
[16:45:03] [BigD`] but once all the good players have gone, that just leaves poorer players who will do the same thing against poorer opposition
[16:45:05] [@EnemySpy] so, whatever way I look at it the server is going to be empty
[16:45:19] [Dr_C] sudo ifconfig eth0 down
[16:45:24] [@EnemySpy] believe what you want BigD
[16:45:24] [Liono] people dont leave when they are being owned.. play CS once ina while and you'll see that.
[16:45:37] [Liono] people cheer when they kill the person owning
[16:45:43] [@EnemySpy] people do leave when they are being owned. I have witnessed it, scav has witnessed it
[16:45:44] [Liono] and there are laughs all round.
[16:45:54] [Liono] no people dont.. bad losers do..
[16:45:58] [@EnemySpy] and you know what? you can all whinge as much as you like, but the plugin stays
[16:46:01] [Liono] I do it every now and then too
[16:46:06] [BigD`] how are you supposed to improve unless you play against the better players, surely it just forces more team play to beat the better players
[16:46:22] [BigD`] reduce the skill level and you are left with even more dm style play
[16:46:24] [@EnemySpy] I am sure there are other servers out there
[16:46:28] [|Vassili|] es just get admin to do the kickin
[16:46:35] »» [j]oin> [beancurd] [[email protected]]
[16:46:36] [|Vassili|] saves all the complainin
[16:46:39] [@EnemySpy] and axia is about communmity, not about being better than anyone else
[16:46:40] [Liono] nobodies whinging.. it only seems that way to someone closed to any kind of debate.
[16:46:47] [@EnemySpy] well, so people keep telling me
[16:46:49] [Liono] or hell.. even opinion
[16:47:05] [BigD`] how can it be about community when you are contiually kicking/banning half the regulars?
[16:47:18] [@EnemySpy] it's been in place a fucking hour. why dont people quit bitching and wait to see how it runs
[16:47:22] [Liono] god forbid someone wont agree with you dude.. theres no need to be so tempermental all the damn time.
[16:47:51] [@EnemySpy] I dont hear the 2 people it has kicked complaining - just you lot
[16:48:06] [BigD`] cause you've banned them from everywhere?
[16:48:09] [Liono] maybe because if they did complain you'd just increase their ban time and laugh for a while
[16:48:10] [BigD`] so they cant complain?
[16:48:12] [@EnemySpy] so piss off and come back and complain when it has kicked you
[16:48:16] [Snowjob] madbird complained
[16:48:23] [@EnemySpy] madbirds was an accident
[16:48:32] [Snowjob] k
[16:48:37] [@EnemySpy] as the forum says, the reason madbird got kicked was a bug
[16:48:45] [Liono] people know better than to "complain" around these parts.. and you can see why
[16:48:55] [Liono] its like chipping a stone wall with a tennis ball.
[16:49:05] [Dr_C] Patience
[16:49:12] [Liono] or it'll just never work.
[16:49:14] [@EnemySpy] well, like I said. the plugin has barely been in a few hours and people are bitching before they have seen it working
[16:49:40] [Liono] because the concept it flawed. the plugin may be flawlessly programmed.. but the concept is bad.
[16:49:51] [@EnemySpy] if it had been in place a few days and it had kicked lots of innocent people I would be open to all these complaints
[16:49:59] [@EnemySpy] but it hasn't.
[16:50:18] [Liono] but it will.. you want to debate in a few days instead?
[16:50:21] [Liono] geez
[16:50:27] [Liono] time to prepare or something/
[16:50:28] [Liono] ?
[16:50:31] [@EnemySpy] yes, lets debate in a few days
[16:50:38] [Dr_C] Time to see what actually happens
[16:50:39] [Liono] absurd.
[16:50:42] [Snowjob] is it difficult to do the plugin to change the player in question to other team instead of banning?
[16:50:48] [@EnemySpy] wot is absurd?
[16:50:52] [@EnemySpy] trying new things?
[16:50:56] [Liono] no the very idea
[16:50:59] [Liono] trying new things is good
[16:51:00] [@EnemySpy] trying to make axia a better place to play?
[16:51:00] [Dr_C] Instead of wild predictions about the end of Axia
[16:51:02] [Liono] the idea is absurd
[16:51:14] [@EnemySpy] how do you know?
[16:51:19] [@EnemySpy] you have not seen it working?
[16:51:27] [Liono] make axia a better place to play by being open to suggestion.. at the moment suggestion is that this is a damn stupid idea
[16:51:30] [@EnemySpy] you have seen the debugging phase
[16:51:53] [Dr_C] Now the production test phase
[16:51:57] [@EnemySpy] you all should say, matt. I don't think it is a good idea.
[16:52:02] [Liono] lick your wounds.. take it off.. come up with something else.. like kicking someone who has a 25 to 1 KD ratio..
[16:52:15] [Liono] or even the team swap..
[16:52:21] [Liono] not heard much about that even though its being repeated
[16:52:22] [@EnemySpy] lick your wounds? fuck you, you arrogant fucker
[16:52:25] [Liono] lol
[16:52:27] [Liono] get over it
[16:52:31] [Liono] move on man
[16:52:35] »» [k]ick> [Liono] was kicked by [EnemySpy] [Liono]
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feck, just read most of that. Yes, I am struggling for things to do atm

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They just ban anyone who is good and advise anyone who is good not to play on their servers.

I used to get banned all the time from there but the final ban was when I called one of the admins a dickhead on coms as he claimed I blocked him.

That was in the days of WON so i wont be banned anymore like.
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[14:00:19] [@EnemySpy] and I believe I have been a server admin long enough to know when someone's gameplay is suspect or not

.. would be my new quit message cause it's the funniest thing I've read in ages. The guy is so far off being a good admin it's pathetic :/

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You know, people like that, you want to disregard them like the nutter that sits down next to you on your choice of Mass Commuter Transport, and starts talking gibberish at you whilst drooling.

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They have some really nice servers and they actually (though as Nor pointed out the people who banned weren't there) seemed ok.

I put it down to a missunderstanding.....

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