New Router Suggestions

venger · 27-Sep-2011, 19:07

It's been a while since I bought a router. Anyone recommend one?

Ideally, integrated gigabit switch and wireless is a must. Definitely sub £150 and if it can be sub £100 even better

Cheers
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blurr · 27-Sep-2011, 21:07

Billion 7800N

venger · 27-Sep-2011, 23:07

Cheer blurr. Certainly gets some good reviews!

Bilb · 28-Sep-2011, 09:36

What Blurr says.

Scrobbs · 28-Sep-2011, 14:38

I have that one. It's great - just one small caveat - the 7800N doesn't do IPv6. If you want that functionality, you will have to get the 7800NL. Just found this out myself about a week ago. If you're not bothered, then the 'standard' one is fine.

blurr · 28-Sep-2011, 15:14

Updating the firmware to 1.06d solves that small niggle :-)

Scrobbs · 28-Sep-2011, 15:20

Aha, nice one. I have grabbed it, but couldn't find the release notes. I think I got it from Billion.com rather than billion.uk.com. That one didn't have the release notes in it iirc.

Badger Man · 30-Jul-2012, 16:42

Bumpy time - is this still the best option to go for? Am going to be upgrading from a Netgear DG834G, which is struggling with wireless comms to my stuff these days.

Blunteh · 30-Jul-2012, 16:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrobbs

I have that one. It's great - just one small caveat - the 7800N doesn't do IPv6. If you want that functionality, you will have to get the 7800NL. Just found this out myself about a week ago. If you're not bothered, then the 'standard' one is fine.

Take this advice ^^^^^

lack of IPv6 support could be a royal pain in the arse in the near future....

http://www.potaroo.net/tools/ipv4/index.html we're covered by RIPENCC

Badger Man · 31-Jul-2012, 11:58

Ordered, will see what it's like this weekend

Badger Man · 04-Aug-2012, 10:17

Ok it seems to give a much better throughput than my Netgear managed - youngest got to watch Timmy Time on IPlayer without any stalls

Only thing is when I turned it on this morning it wasn't seeing an Adsl signal, old router could. Did a factory reset and re-entered all the settings and it's fine again. So will try again later to see if power off is screwing it up....

Blunteh · 04-Aug-2012, 13:51

You turn it off at night ?

Badger Man · 04-Aug-2012, 16:47

Scrobbs · 04-Aug-2012, 16:55

Ah, I know where the problem might lie. The web interface is a bit counter-intuitive. You can 'apply' the settings, but you can also 'save config'. So you should always do both when making a change.

Badger Man · 04-Aug-2012, 18:01

Yeah that's what it looks like Scrobbs, did the save config routine this time and a quick restart later everything still worked, so that's encouraging.

Thanks for the tip mate

Nomad · 04-Aug-2012, 20:38

apply is just for temp, save is for post re-boot, it's cisco-ey

Badger Man · 04-Aug-2012, 20:45

Yeah as soon as I saw the post I had an nnrrgghh moment - why didn't I realise that one myself!

Scrobbs · 04-Aug-2012, 21:00

You neg repped me

Badger Man · 04-Aug-2012, 22:23

Huh, am sure it was positive mate - was definitely highlighted.

If its screwed up I'm sorry, hopefully the words with it show it wasn't meant to be

Scrobbs · 04-Aug-2012, 22:39

Oh, no, for sure, they don't. It doesn't matter about it really, thought it was quite funny.

Blunteh · 04-Aug-2012, 23:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badger Man

Yes

Doing that can make the DSL kit in the exchange think there's a problem with your line and lower the connection speed over time.... It's recommended to leave your ADSL router on 24/7. It sips lekky anyway so it probably costs sweet FA..

Badger Man · 05-Aug-2012, 08:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blunteh

Doing that can make the DSL kit in the exchange think there's a problem with your line and lower the connection speed over time.... It's recommended to leave your ADSL router on 24/7. It sips lekky anyway so it probably costs sweet FA..

Fair enough, I was always a bit concerned about how warm they get. Will give it a try and see how it goes. Am now going to try and positive rep you - hope it doesn't end up like Scrobbs!!

Blunteh · 05-Aug-2012, 09:21

They get warm as they're passively cooled (no fan so nice and quiet) and rely on getting a little warm to get the air flowing AFAIK.

Badger Man · 05-Aug-2012, 09:55

Seems fair enough - it certainly seems to be more stable a connection than my old Netgear - my Sure Signal box is staying online more too

Bilb · 06-Aug-2012, 09:40

As Blunteh says, if you keep turning it off, the exchange thinks there is a problem, and drops the connection speed until it thinks that it is stable.

Also, although you can save and import your config. Billion UK told me that I should do this between firmware upgrades, as some settings may have changed.

Therefore I suggest having a written log of your config, so should you upgrade the firmware, you know what settings to re-apply.

Badger Man · 12-Aug-2012, 11:14

Is there any sort of consensus as to what's the best wireless channel to use? Mine seems ok on the default channel 1, but what do you all use? Any little performance tweak I can get is always welcome

Nomad · 12-Aug-2012, 12:30

top top secret 37. depends on the environment area so different to each, can be effected locally by other networks amongst other things, try it and see.

there are ways to check easily what others are on and it appears virgin's 'auto' setting means a fancy way of saying channel 6. seems where i live everyone chooses 1, 6,7 or 11 a mix of human nature and virgin/bt auto settings i guess

burundi · 12-Aug-2012, 12:47

I have a little WiFI analsyer app on my phone, it shows all the channels in use by the other devices around me so i can manually choose the best one for my router, amazing how many people use 1 or 13.

Badger Man · 13-Aug-2012, 10:27

Thanks for all your help as always guys - spinky new router seems to be playing nicely

Orange · 02-Nov-2012, 16:46

Any recommendation for a pure wireless router? This Virgin hub is a piece of overheating shit.

27-Sep-2011, 19:07	#1
venger will post for food Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,371	New Router Suggestions It's been a while since I bought a router. Anyone recommend one? Ideally, integrated gigabit switch and wireless is a must. Definitely sub £150 and if it can be sub £100 even better Cheers v __________________ It fits, the god damn thing fits! #RaG

27-Sep-2011, 21:07	#2
blurr fashion victim Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 18,450	Billion 7800N __________________ + myembers

27-Sep-2011, 23:07	#3
venger will post for food Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,371	Cheer blurr. Certainly gets some good reviews! __________________ It fits, the god damn thing fits! #RaG

28-Sep-2011, 09:36	#4
Bilb Amazeballs! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Elite Elevated Equine Division Posts: 11,283	What Blurr says. __________________ @TomJJarvis

28-Sep-2011, 14:38	#5
Scrobbs Sunnyvale Supervisor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In the pipe, five by five. Posts: 13,529	I have that one. It's great - just one small caveat - the 7800N doesn't do IPv6. If you want that functionality, you will have to get the 7800NL. Just found this out myself about a week ago. If you're not bothered, then the 'standard' one is fine. __________________ http://bit.ly/debatethebill

28-Sep-2011, 15:14	#6
blurr fashion victim Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 18,450	Updating the firmware to 1.06d solves that small niggle :-) __________________ + myembers

28-Sep-2011, 15:20	#7
Scrobbs Sunnyvale Supervisor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In the pipe, five by five. Posts: 13,529	Aha, nice one. I have grabbed it, but couldn't find the release notes. I think I got it from Billion.com rather than billion.uk.com. That one didn't have the release notes in it iirc. __________________ http://bit.ly/debatethebill

30-Jul-2012, 16:42	#8
Badger Man During the war.... Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Stevenage/Minety Posts: 1,241	Bumpy time - is this still the best option to go for? Am going to be upgrading from a Netgear DG834G, which is struggling with wireless comms to my stuff these days. __________________ Faye Turney believed not to be involved.

31-Jul-2012, 11:58	#10
Badger Man During the war.... Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Stevenage/Minety Posts: 1,241	Ordered, will see what it's like this weekend __________________ Faye Turney believed not to be involved.

04-Aug-2012, 10:17	#11
Badger Man During the war.... Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Stevenage/Minety Posts: 1,241	Ok it seems to give a much better throughput than my Netgear managed - youngest got to watch Timmy Time on IPlayer without any stalls Only thing is when I turned it on this morning it wasn't seeing an Adsl signal, old router could. Did a factory reset and re-entered all the settings and it's fine again. So will try again later to see if power off is screwing it up.... __________________ Faye Turney believed not to be involved.

04-Aug-2012, 13:51	#12
Blunteh Return of the Colander Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 8,650	You turn it off at night ?

04-Aug-2012, 16:47	#13
Badger Man During the war.... Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Stevenage/Minety Posts: 1,241	Yes __________________ Faye Turney believed not to be involved.

04-Aug-2012, 16:55	#14
Scrobbs Sunnyvale Supervisor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In the pipe, five by five. Posts: 13,529	Ah, I know where the problem might lie. The web interface is a bit counter-intuitive. You can 'apply' the settings, but you can also 'save config'. So you should always do both when making a change. __________________ http://bit.ly/debatethebill Last edited by Scrobbs; 04-Aug-2012 at 21:00.

04-Aug-2012, 18:01	#15
Badger Man During the war.... Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Stevenage/Minety Posts: 1,241	Yeah that's what it looks like Scrobbs, did the save config routine this time and a quick restart later everything still worked, so that's encouraging. Thanks for the tip mate __________________ Faye Turney believed not to be involved.

04-Aug-2012, 20:38	#16
Nomad i fear no midget Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,652	apply is just for temp, save is for post re-boot, it's cisco-ey

04-Aug-2012, 20:45	#17
Badger Man During the war.... Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Stevenage/Minety Posts: 1,241	Yeah as soon as I saw the post I had an nnrrgghh moment - why didn't I realise that one myself! __________________ Faye Turney believed not to be involved.

04-Aug-2012, 21:00	#18
Scrobbs Sunnyvale Supervisor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In the pipe, five by five. Posts: 13,529	You neg repped me __________________ http://bit.ly/debatethebill

04-Aug-2012, 22:23	#19
Badger Man During the war.... Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Stevenage/Minety Posts: 1,241	Huh, am sure it was positive mate - was definitely highlighted. If its screwed up I'm sorry, hopefully the words with it show it wasn't meant to be __________________ Faye Turney believed not to be involved.

04-Aug-2012, 22:39	#20
Scrobbs Sunnyvale Supervisor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In the pipe, five by five. Posts: 13,529	Oh, no, for sure, they don't. It doesn't matter about it really, thought it was quite funny. __________________ http://bit.ly/debatethebill

05-Aug-2012, 09:21	#23
Blunteh Return of the Colander Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 8,650	They get warm as they're passively cooled (no fan so nice and quiet) and rely on getting a little warm to get the air flowing AFAIK.

05-Aug-2012, 09:55	#24
Badger Man During the war.... Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Stevenage/Minety Posts: 1,241	Seems fair enough - it certainly seems to be more stable a connection than my old Netgear - my Sure Signal box is staying online more too __________________ Faye Turney believed not to be involved.

06-Aug-2012, 09:40	#25
Bilb Amazeballs! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Elite Elevated Equine Division Posts: 11,283	As Blunteh says, if you keep turning it off, the exchange thinks there is a problem, and drops the connection speed until it thinks that it is stable. Also, although you can save and import your config. Billion UK told me that I should do this between firmware upgrades, as some settings may have changed. Therefore I suggest having a written log of your config, so should you upgrade the firmware, you know what settings to re-apply. __________________ @TomJJarvis

12-Aug-2012, 11:14	#26
Badger Man During the war.... Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Stevenage/Minety Posts: 1,241	Is there any sort of consensus as to what's the best wireless channel to use? Mine seems ok on the default channel 1, but what do you all use? Any little performance tweak I can get is always welcome __________________ Faye Turney believed not to be involved.

12-Aug-2012, 12:30	#27
Nomad i fear no midget Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,652	top top secret 37. depends on the environment area so different to each, can be effected locally by other networks amongst other things, try it and see. there are ways to check easily what others are on and it appears virgin's 'auto' setting means a fancy way of saying channel 6. seems where i live everyone chooses 1, 6,7 or 11 a mix of human nature and virgin/bt auto settings i guess Last edited by Nomad; 12-Aug-2012 at 12:50.

12-Aug-2012, 12:47	#28
burundi WARNING: May contain nuts Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Prestonia Posts: 10,530	I have a little WiFI analsyer app on my phone, it shows all the channels in use by the other devices around me so i can manually choose the best one for my router, amazing how many people use 1 or 13. __________________ Want UnLtd Mobile Data & Texts for £12 a month PAYG? - Order a free GiffGaff SIM via this link and get an additional free £5 credit. At £12 a month data is unlimited with no fair usage policy! ** Have you added yourself to the trickery members map ** WANTED: Something witty to go here.

13-Aug-2012, 10:27	#29
Badger Man During the war.... Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Stevenage/Minety Posts: 1,241	Thanks for all your help as always guys - spinky new router seems to be playing nicely __________________ Faye Turney believed not to be involved.

02-Nov-2012, 16:46	#30
Orange member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,608	Any recommendation for a pure wireless router? This Virgin hub is a piece of overheating shit.